Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > > Ron, I honestly don't know why you stay on this mailing-list. You > > have a long-term reputation of inflamatory posts on this list > > that everyone remembers. > > I.m telling it like it is, Guillaume. Just the facts. If I am > in any way wrong about my initial judgement of 9.0, please show > me. Your attitude to my gripes only serves to confirm their > actuality, which is apparently not the news you want to hear.
You claim that "This is a real disaster" and "it is a waste of everyone's time". That are very strong statements. The problem is that many people here "wasted" their time reporting bugs, we "wasted" our time fixing a pile of them, and since then many people reported that they "wasted" their time installing 9.0 flawlessly. True, of course, we do have bugs. First, we're not Debian. Second, even Debian have bugs. When they are minor bugs, this isn't important. When they are more important bugs that we discovered only after release, the "errata" page is here for us. The 9.0 is absolutely not a "real disaster" as you claim. > > You've been away from the 9.0 > > development, and now that it's over you come back here to insult > > again the work of our community of mandrake developers and cooker > > testers/developers, this being absolutely not deserved. > > I have been with the 9.0 beta testing since day one, and with the I'm not sure we're here to "count" but if I go to marc's archive I can only find info about this last thread, troels, a question about kdf and kpackage and a bugreport about 9.0rc3 failing to install that was answered by francois: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker&m=103244762606447&w=2 This confirms my general feeling that you were mostly away from 9.0 stabilization - at least, far less active than at least 20-30 other persons, and far less active than what you once did. > software development process for 39 professional years in three > countries (USA, Canada, Australia). My one regret is that > Mandrake saw fit to rush to release without even bothering to > poll its beta testers for still-current not yet reported > problems. That's no way to run a development operation, is it? Well we've been consistent with our development policy for a long time now. Each new release, you complain about that. You know that you won't make it change by yourself. I suggest you stop complaining about that, possibly leaving this mailing-list if this is a central keypoint for you. > > We don't > > have a tradition of censorship, so could you consider by yourself > > the possibility of resigning your cooker mailing-list membership? > > Probably this would be the best decision both for you and us, so > > that we stop wasting our time. Thank you! > > Wasting your time? Examples, please... Pretending that what we've been working on for the last 6 months is a "real disaster" and is a "waste of everyone's time" is a waste of your and our time. > You people obviously need administration of a touch of user-level > reality sometimes. I have been one of the few really valuable > resources to MandrakeSoft, and to other companies, all > appreciative, no complaints. So let's say that for whatever reason we can't appreciate your "valuability", and that's our fault. Maybe the good decision would be to leave that place which is full of incomprehension, right? -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
