On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 08:04 PM, Oden Eriksson wrote:
[...] >> The point is I don't like to do this. It's fine to patch things for >> fixes, proper language translations, etc. But adding features like >> this causes other problems... it will bring a lot of bad publicity for >> MandrakeSoft because of Theo; he's made many threats in the past and >> he's neurotic enough to follow through. For instance, if we do >> something Theo really doesn't like, or that Markus doesn't like, any >> questions regarding openssh that even faintly mention Mandrake >> somewhere in the equation, will get blasted by the openssh developers, >> and they'll be referred here with none too kind words. >> >> I'd rather avoid that sort of thing. > > Ahh, I didn't think that far, are they really such a*holes? May I ask > what > those threats were? Let's call them protective. And the threats were basically bad publicity amongst many other Linux/BSD vendors and communities, big anti-MandrakeSoft sentiments on the openssh website, that sort of thing. I don't recall the particulars, but it was enough for me to remove the offending patches. If you look at the openssh spec, you'll see a note in there about "authorized patches"... I stick with that 100% (and I put it there). openssh is one of the things I (we) don't really want or need to fsck with. >> This is something that can be done with an optional build switch so >> someone can easily rebuild the srpm for themself with the patch >> applied. It's not something I want to make mainstream unless I know >> that the openssh authors aren't going to be pricks about it. I prefer >> to have as few headaches as possible. > > Ok. I will fix an conditional switch for this. It would be interesting > to hear > what they have to say about this as it's a pretty new feature. As I > understand it it's as new as of this month. They might not even know > about > it? I just posted to the dev list about it, so we'll see what comes of it. Pending the inevitable discussion about it, we'll see what we do with it. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ "lynx - source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import" {FE6F2AFD: 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD}
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