Use Kxine, it uses the xine libs but the GUI is much more "media player" like and it seems more stable than xine for some reason...

Cheers,

Jason

gabor wrote:
On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 01:06, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
  
Hi.

On Mon 2002-11-18 at 08:42:57 +0100, Yves Duret wrote:
    
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 12:53:24PM +0000, Adam Williamson wrote:
      
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 12:41, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
        
Now that i had some success with other transfer requests, what about the 
ultimate multimedia player under linux, aka mplayer ?

It is not the most politically correct package, for sure, but it is legaly 
clean (otherwise it won't even be in contrib), and its presence in main would 
definitevely boost mdk on desktop.
          
Xine does just about everything mplayer does...
        
time to be less "monocentric" on multimedia apps.
and time to drop out thnigs like xanim (is it still existing ?).
The xine standard ui is not easy to understand, peek your
windows-mediaplayer-addict mother in front of it, and see..
      
No need to take some mother... I yesterday tried xine for the first
time due to this discussion.

I consider myself quite computer literate, but I needed several
minutes with the GUI until I figured out how to playback an .avi file.

Half of the icons do not trigger any association with me. I had to try
out all but the most obvious (play, stop, pause, ...).

What irritated me most that I had to use the playlist, which I closed
again at once, the first time I encountered it (because I wanted to
load one movie, not specify a list of files). A bit later I gave up
and specified a one-item list, because I found no other way. I did not
bother to look longer if there is a better way, it is well possible
that there is one - but if there is, for me it was not intuitive to
find. I neither tried the CLI afterwards.

The options window with all its tabs is also frustating. There are a
lot of options, which have a non-obvious effect (and that though I am
familiar with the mplayer options). If I have to look up the docu,
what is the benefit of having that in the GUI?

I do know, that there are always options that are useful once you know
them (e.g. DAO, TAO, etc. with cd writers), but as I said, I am
familiar with mplayer options, so I think I know the basic vocabulary.


Enough for that rant. I did not intended it to become one. I only now
realized, how frustating the experience with xine was. And I thought
mplayer was bad when it struck me down on first sight with the pure
number of options it has. At least "mplayer movie.avi" simply
worked. ;-)  (I know, I know, probably that also works with xine).
    

actually xine has a feature that mplayer lacks... 

xine is available as a library ( libxine ), so there are some players
which are based on xine... for gnome ther's totem, for kde there is a
kde on ( try xine.sourceforge.net for a list of them )...

mostly when i want to use xine ( i don't use it much, but still ) i use
totem... the only problem is that there's is no way to set xine's
properties in totem ( at least i haven't found it :(

bye,
gabor 
  
Regards,

	Benjamin.
    

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