On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 02:55:03AM -0800, Quel Qun wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 02:29, Murray J. Root wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 11:01:17AM +0100, David BAUDENS wrote:
> > > On Thursday 28 November 2002 00:46, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 21:33, laurent Montel wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday 27 November 2002 21:56, Danny Tholen wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday 27 November 2002 19:03, Todd Lyons wrote:
> > > > > > > I have tested this and it works well.  Please look at the url
> > > > > > > below, grab the rpm, and test it.  You will like the results
> > > > > > > and you will want to put this rpm in Contribs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Interesting, so now we have 1 mandrake employee in favour of it
> > > > > > (Todd) one (with an attitude) against (David), and one in doubt
> > > > > > (Warly).
> > > > >
> > > > > It's not a attitude, we are against, and it's finished.
> > > > > Discution is closed, you can continue to speak, if you want, but we
> > > > > will not re-add these font in MDK.
> > > >
> > > > *sigh*
> > > >
> > > > At least look at what Ben's package does.
> > > >
> > > > To say it again:
> > > >
> > > > NO ONE IS ASKING YOU TO PUT THE MICROSOFT CORE FONTS IN MANDRAKE.
> > > >
> > > > Is that clear enough? Do you want it up in lights somewhere?
> > > >
> > > > Ben wants his WRAPPER SCRIPT THAT DOWNLOADS AND INSTALLS THE
> > > > MICROSOFT CORE FONTS in Mandrake.
> > > >
> > > > This is a different thing entirely.
> > > 
> > > For you, maybe. But for Microsoft, it is enough to start an action in 
> > > justice. So, I am sorry but I refuse to see Mandrake close for a such 
> > > stupid thing.
> > > 
> > I can understand the position. Even makes sense, considering MS ability
> > to buy court decisions.
> > 
> > What I don't understand is the offensive way of stating the position.
> > I guess it comes from the contempt MandrakeSoft has for its contributors. 
> C'mon, you don't need them, they don't need you.
> I don't like ML arguments, but we all need linux distros, even many
> people who don't know about is yet. Keep Ben's rpm on plf and let the
> guys who are getting their steak from their work decide what is safe for
> themselves.
> Even the US Feds failed to rein the beast, so please...

You must have misread my post - I am not arguing that Mandrake should
put the RPM in contrib. I'm only saying that I think that Mandrake
employees should be a little more respectful when saying "no". 

Ben Reser has contributed way too much to Mandrake to have his work
dismissed as a "stupid thing" or to be told "no - end of discussion".

How many contributors will continue to be contributors if they start
expecting rude responses to their offers as the norm?

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Murray J. Root
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