"John Danielson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Since one can get to console from the X login screen a few ways, one does not
> need the option to autoload a desktop at all in the installer, IMHO.

many don't like having [xkg]dm running, so it's needed

> Simply
> set the X login to a lower res and color depth that is VESA if the video test
> failed-- branch past that setting of res only IF the video test suceeded.

alas video test doesn't work well during install and is disabled on
many cards.

> most
> video cards still in use can handle 640x480x256 (8 Bit) color, so poke a
> default like that,  overwrite\replace after video test suceeds. No video test,
> default to fail action.  A lot of pre-1996 monitors have a lack of a good
> versatile 800x600x16 bit mode set, and those things last so long if well
> treated that there are lots of them handed down and in use.

installation already defaults to 800x600x16 with not many people
yelling ;p

in any way XFree "vesa" module is not very good, much safer is "fbdev"
(as redhat learned...)

> Doing just that would eliminate the hardest thing for many newbies to grasp
> and work around-- video failure during boot(as THEY see it, boot ends when
> desktop is up and running).
> 
> I agree about the recommended part, but the basic assumptions need to be
> filled in if the advanced button is not selected and choices not completed
> through any needed choice testing. Default minimal until better tested,
> insofar as video goes. I would myself just change recommended to basic or
> SAFER.

i don't think automatic configuration is so bad that we have to go
down that way. There are problems, but most of them are better fixed
than work-arounded the way proposed above. *Many* people would be
pissed of with a default config using framebuffer with a low
resolution (KDE/Gnome are hardly usable in 800x600, and don't even try
640x480!)

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