> John Allen wrote:
>
>>On Thursday 23 January 2003 12:19, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
>>
>>
>>>John Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The via-rhine driver loads fine, and ifstatus says there is a link
>>>> heartbeat, but no traffic ever goes through the interface.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>via-rhine works fine, are you sure you have your network properly
>>> configured ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Maybe it is just the Chaintech 7VJL then. (I have installed a 3Com card
>> and it  works fine). I have also tried the VIA driver from Chaintech,
>> and the one  directly from VIA, same result.
>>
>>It does however work perfectly under Windows XP.
>>
>>I hopefully will be getting another 7VJL, and if works on that I can
>> just send  the current one back.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
> Under THOSE circumstances, you might also see if the BIOS has the
> embedded LAN turned off. Linux can detect things that the computer BIOS
> will not flow data to, then users wonder why the heck data traffic
> cannot happen until they either use an add-on card or check the BIOS
> (sometimes in peripherals, sometimes advanced setup, sometimes PNP
> area). I have also had Linux not like defaulted resources that conflict
> but which windows treats as non-dedicated and uses with less efficiency
> if conflicted. I lost LAN, then sound, then both, and finally after
> telling my BIOS to reconfigure itself yet AGAIN (actually time 6, and a
> BIOS Flash) most conflicts were resolved and things worked in Linux.
> Chaintechs do this, some Soyo boards that are modern do this, Intel
> boards that are modern do this.
> The south bridges mitigate such things to a large degree, and I know
> this because of two things that area growing-in-frequency pattern: the
> BIOSs are coded to stack SB routed traffic first if must, and Windows
> uses SB drivers that turn conflicts over to the SB of modern boards
> rather than direct access. Internal to Windows the SB stacked IRQs are
> separated out, that is why you can see Windows using IRQs 16-20
> internally these days-- this sacrifices efficiency per stream for
> compatibility with modern boards that in essence use the SB as a very
> good resource conflict mitigator for media and LAN data streaming, and
> they typically chunk USB into that, and firewire-- the combo of IRQ plus
>  port set is used to determine what resource is wanted, not primarily
> just IRQ any more or IRQ foremost with I\O port second, they are used
> TOGETHER now. Over the long haul, linux will have to recognize changes
> that have descended into chipware and firmware.
>
> Thumbnail Linguistic XREF\Perspective:
>
> SOUTH BRIDGE is secondary chipset controller of resource flows, paired
> with North Bridge, or primary chipset controller. In England, it is
> called a southbridge by some, in the US two words are used for this
> chipset chip. In Europe, closest equiv. I can think of in English is
> Ancillary main chipset controller, or multimedia controller (while north
>  bridge would be the main chipset controller). I would like to be
> enlightened as to how you folks differentiate the chips in a now-dual
> main-chipset board structure, so we can understand each other better.
>
> John.

I have the Soyo SY-KT400 Dragon Ultra and it has the same problem, only it
does not stop at the VIA-RHINE NIC.  I also loose use of my USB devices. 
However when I recompile the kernel with apic disabled I regain use of the
USB and the NIC.  The only drawback (with the mandrake kernel)is that the
recompiled NVIDIA kernel driver does not function correctly.  If I
recompile a Vanilla kernel with the same basic options that I use with the
Mandrake kernel I have full functionality.  This has been true with both
Beta 1 and Beta 2.




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