At 05:17 PM 1/27/03 +0000, you wrote: >I can't believe it's very difficult. I mean, take an example - I'm >looking at Evolution right now, a GTK app. I have it maximised; the tree >view on the left has no scrollbars. If I make it too thin for the whole >tree view to be completely displayed horizontally, guess what? A >scrollbar appears. If I make it too short for it to be completely >displayed vertically (I'm sure you can see where I'm going with >this...:>), hey, another scrollbar appears! Just like that. SURELY this >can't be *so* hard for the Mandrake tools to implement? I guess Mandrake >has the slight extra problem of starting its tools up with an >appropriate window size, but that must surely be possible too.
Hmmm... everything is possible with enough code but is it worth the bother, that's always the question. I have just done a few minutes of search on the Internet, and looking at : http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/gtk/gtkwindow.html I see that this is not a simple matter of setting a few properties on a window to create it with toolbars; it seems that what you have to do is to create a parent window of a special kind, and the real window to be a child of this window. It seems that Gtk automatically expands a window when widgets are added to it : >A toplevel window will always change size to ensure its child widgets >receive their requested size. This means that if you add child widgets, >the toplevel window will expand to contain them. For fun, I read also later : > Furthermore GTK+ has a tendency to re-expand the window if size is >recalculated for any reason. Well, I am a programmer and when I read about a software tool that it exhibits 'tendancies', I run. It all but announces a world of horrors. I don't really know as I don't touch Gtk, but what I find suspicious is that feature is absent from most Gtk software. If *everyone* was doing it but Mandrake, your opinion would be certain. But like another poster said, Evolution is a big app; it is probably not your typical open source software written by a few enthusiasts; it had some serious corporate backing from what I understand. Gerard
