----- Original Message -----
From: "Buchan Milne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: latest bincimap


> Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > m�ndagen den 27 januari 2003 12.48 skrev Buchan Milne:
> >
> >>Oden Eriksson wrote:
> >>
> >>>Buchan Milne writes:
> >>>
> >>>>The big issue is migrating mail which is in mbox files. That's why my
> >>>>first prodcution mail server *still* runs UW. And unfortunately that
> >>>>affects all current Maildir server. Would be nice if there were a
> >>>>mbox2maildir migration IMAP server ;-).
> >>>
>
>>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=mbox2maildir&btnG=
> >>>Goo gle+Search
> >>>http://freshmeat.net/projects/imapmigration
> >>
> >>Sure, there is also imapcopy
> >>(http://www.jplanglois.com/products/imapcp/) and mb2md
> >>(http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/mb2md/), but one can't just
> >>dump uw while people have mail servers running it ...
> >
> >
> > Yes I see, this needs to be done methodical and carefully. Are there
many
> > users? Downtime is unaceptable?
>
> About 80 users, downtime unacceptable in the day, and must be minimised
> after hours (some people use webmail from home or overseas).

I upgraded a system this morning with 500+ users
(qmail+vpopmail+courier-imap+sqwebmail+maildrop), no migration though. No
sweat.

I guess you find a lot of usefull migrating stuf if you go to www.qmail.org
(for maildirs)

(this keyboard is crazy..., the keys doesn't always "take"...)

> >
> >
> >>I must still get around to testing these, and then migrate ...
> >>
> >>And we don't like disturbing the users too much, mail server upgrade is
> >>dependant on our recently completed file server migration ... the kind
> >>of thigns you don't want to do simultaneously!
> >
> >
> > He he he, no it would be to much to keep track of.
> >
>
> Well, primary server (including ldap master, windows domain controller
> amanda etc) is running fine, and the old server is up and running as a
> hot spare with rysnc syncing nightly (we will have to see if rsync can
> keep 130GB of data in sync over  128k ISDN ;-)). So that means we can
> start play^H^H^H^Hworking on the mail server ....

Very cool! I guess you ntp first to prevent synthetic time, or maybe it's
not nessesary with rsync?

> >
> >>>>Also, the KDE kolab project uses cyrus ... so do we want 4 IMAP
servers
> >>>>in the distro?
> >>>
> >>>Then we won't see either kolab or cyrus-imap in mandrake because of the
> >>>cyrus-imap license?
> >>
> >>According to FM it's OSI-approved, and from reading it, it seems almost
> >>identical (except for paragraph 4 which seems to reiterate 1 and 2 but
> >>for some distribution besides source or binary?) to the modified
> >>GPL-compatible BSD:
> >>
> >>http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/imapd/license.html
> >>
> >>Of course Mandrake uses the GPL-incompatibly-licensed postfix (IBM
> >>public license) as default MTA ;-)
> >
> >
> > I don't know about the license model, but I vaugly recall a discussion
on this
> > list some time ago that it would not make it.
> >
>
> Still no response on it ...
>
> > Well..., back on topic. I would like people to test this new server and
report
> > to me their experience. It's very promising. I will test it in
production
> > myself this week.
> >
>
> OK, we have a spare box that happens to run cooker, and I have bincimap
> installed but Mozilla don't like it.
>
> 1)Do I need to maildirmake ~/Maildir as with courier, and if so how
> (urpmf maildirmake gives courier-imap which conflicts with bincimap :-()

I think you can define mailbox in /etc/*.conf if needed.

> 2)Anything else I need for non-ssl but to bounce xinetd and configure
> /etc/pam.d/checkpassword-pam ?

I must admit I know very little how this should be configured (pam), I tried
to look at other packages to give me hints. If all else fails try to use
DJB's "checkpassword" package without pam support and change the xinetd
files, I think vdanen has binaries.

A pam guru should help out here...

> telnet to 143 gives:
>
> Trying xxx.xxx.xxx.37...
> Connected to caeisd1.xxx.xxx.xx (xxx.xxx.xxx.37).
> Escape character is '^]'.
> Storage::load("/etc/bincimap.conf") succeeded
> 11128 00000 [unknown@???.???.???.???:] Connection from * OK Welcome to
> Binc IMAP v1.0.17 (c) Copyright 2002, 2003 Andreas Aardal Hanssen at
> 2003-01-30T04:01:49Z
>
> No mods to /etc/bincimap.conf, ~ is on NFS mount, should I try setting
>   path = "./Maildir/" to be local?
>
> But mozilla still don't want to play.
>
> Are there more docs than 'rpm -qd bincimap' ?

This is unknown ground. Maybe I should rename the package to
*0.BETA_QUALITY.1mdk so that people acknowledges it as a software in eary
development.

I plan to test run bincimap in my tcpserver+daemontools+qmail+vpopmail env,
not with /etc/passwd or mailbox users.

> Regards,
> Buchan
>
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