Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Monday February 17 2003 07:18 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > >   This probly won't help, sorry ;(  I booted with the b3 1st CD
> > > and, <F1>, typed in 'expert'. it hung again. Altho the cursor is
> > > blinkin on the screen, the system will not respond to
> > > <ctl-alt-F4>, or anything else < -F*> for that matter (gave it 10
> > > mins).
> >
> > If it doesn't respond to Ctrl Alt F4 it means the kernel is
> > totally frozen :(.
> 
>      Doesn't seem to be. If I let it sit on "Loading 2nd Stage" for 
> several minutes and do a reboot, my cpu temps are still fairly 
> normal.  And as I said, the cursor is still blinking the whole time 
> the system just sits there going nowhere.

Cursor and temperature are independant of the kernel being
frozen, AFAIK. The Ctrl Alt F<n> and Num Lock and generally
better indicators (though I'm not really sure for Num Lock).
 
> > What if you switch to console #4 right before the freeze? (at the
> > time it will start to load the ramdisk) Any interesting last
> > kernel messages?
> >
> > On my test machine, I can see no problem booting on the CD#1 with
> > "expert" option..
> 
>      'alt-F4', 'crtl-alt-F4', neither works. I did as you suggested 
> and tried F4 while the 1st stage was loading. It's like the keyboard 
> is lost as soon as 1st stage begins to load.

Oh, do you have an USB keyboard? Then it's normal - well, not
normal, it's a kernel bug (destroying the bios PS2 keyboard
compatibility), but it's a known "feature" :).

The USB keyboard will be unresponsive until the usb drivers are
loaded :(.

What's strange, is that in expert mode, before the first dialog
the usb drivers should be loaded, bringing your usb keyboard back
to life. I don't understand why that's not the case, especially
since in stage2 you have access to it, that means that we do have
your usb adapter listed in our pci listings :/.
 
> > >   I mentioned in my previous post that it was 512 ram at cas2. It
> > > was also set to 4-bank interleaving, ie, aggresive timings.  I
> > > tried again with cas3, interleaving disabled, even tried
> > > underclocked to 30 mhz (pci) ...same deal ... hung on 'expert'
> > > "loading second stage". Regular install option has no problems.
> >
> > What if you choose default bios settings?
> 
>    Default is cas3 with bank-interleaving disabled, so yes, I tried 
> with bios defaults, tho the ram is fully capable of more aggressive 
> timings.  Has been so in several systems.
> 
> > If it's a recent machine -> we're having trouble with acpi, did
> > you try to boot with "expert acpi=off"?
> 
>    I tried 'expert acpi=off', 'expert acpi=off no apic', and 'expert 
> acpi=off no apic mem=nopentium', all with the same result, the 
> systems just sits doing nothing after the "2nd stage" starts.
> 
>  BTW, after the system is booted normally, crtl-alt-F* does work. The 
> system is almost two years old, ie, not recent.

Sorry, I can't figure out more..

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/

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