On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:07:03 -0800 (PST), tarvid wrote:

> 
> On Thursday 20 February 2003 03:50 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> > On Thursday 20 February 2003 21:33, tarvid wrote:
> > > On Thursday 20 February 2003 02:44 pm, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > > > tarvid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > So if I conceed it won't work on this box, what box will it work on?
> > >
> > I don't understand ? Whats your point ? use acpi=off and maybe noapic and
> > the machines will running. Are you so concerned to acpi working on a
> > machine that does not have a correct acpi-implementation ? Or are you just
> > flaming ?
> My point is as I asked above
> 
> what box will it work on?
> 
> I have a lot of people running with acpi and apic disabled.
> 
> Life would be better for me if I could point to a list of chipsets that do 
> work.
> 
> Like many Linux advocates, I have a large number of Windows users asking me 
> about Linux (thousands actually). Answers are nice.
> 
> Jim Tarvid

Since Mandrake doesn't have every piece of hardware to test against, it seems a
little silly to ask them a question like that.  9.1 will be shipped with both
acpi and apic disabled because of the number of issues that have been seen with
them.

If you install 9.1 you should have no issues with machines that acpi and apic
don't work on, and isn't that what you want, something that installs and works
without too much work on your part?  That is what Mandrake wants to ship.  If
you think acpi or apic should work on a machine, try it out.

I'm just not understanding why you are taking up so much time on the mailing
list talking about this.  Obviously, the Linux kernel team is working on making
acpi work better with more machines, working around the problems with the
motherboard implementations, but that work may not show up until the 2.6 kernel
(and may not be complete then), and Mandrake isn't going to be able solve it in
the next few weeks.

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