On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:44:50 -0600, Bret Baptist wrote: > On Friday 21 February 2003 9:14 am, Frederic Crozat wrote: >> >> What you are asking for is clearly based on a KDE centric point of >> >> view.. >> > >> > No, I think that it is based on the most customization possible point of >> > view. The reason that it seems to be KDE centric is because it *has* the >> > ability to be customizable. >> >> About customizations, I suggest you read Havoc article : >> >> http://www106.pair.com/rhp/free-software-ui.html > > A very good article that backs up what you have been saying in some areas and > supports what a few of us have been saying in others. > > I quote: > "So how is the decision [to add a preference] made? It's a judgment call. I > try to go through some questions like these: > > 1. Ask questions to find out what's really bugging someone who requests a > preference. What is the annoyance or inefficiency that prompted them to ask? > > 2. Can said annoyance be made to go away for all users without requiring a > preference? If so, just do that. You may have to think about the big picture > of the UI to figure out how to make it Just Work. > > 3. Is the annoyance or inefficiency really significant, or did it cost them 1 > second doing something that users do once per week on average? If it's just > some trivial thing, then the extra feature or preference probably costs more > than it's worth, even if you can't make things Just Work. > > 4. Does any other OS have this feature or preference? I'm all for innovation, > but if no one else is doing something, you should think it through twice to > be sure there isn't a reason they aren't doing it. If you're appropriately > humble you'll probably find that a lot of thought and user testing has gone > into the currently popular platforms." > > > The only question that we can't answer yes to is number 3, if it is trivial or > not. I think that all the others we can say with a fair degree of certainty, > yes. In the case of number 4, other OSes having this feature, I would say > that most of them do have the abiltity to look the same across almost all > apps when you change the color of the widgets. > > The main reason I am pushing this is I have seen what people said about > Redhat's BlueCurve. It was lambasted in some circles solely for the color > customization issue, I don't want the same to happen to Mandrake's Galaxy. > If you are going to make things look the same, then you should probably make > sure that they *always* look the same. The first time Linux user who goes > into KControl and selects a different color scheme and finds their Gimp > looking very out of place is going to get a bad impression of what Linux can > do. "Windows handles color changes without a problem." The only way to > really "fix" the issue is to pull the color settings module from KControl, > not a good option at all, or make it so that the color scheme is the same > between GTK and QT. Does this make any sense? Or am I just talkin' outa my > ass?
I think I made my point very clear.. It is a "bug" in Kcontrol.. There is also a project to let GTK and QT discover the color used by the other toolkits (using XSettings).. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
