On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 02:04:11 +0100
Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And yes something like kinternet is needed for mandrake. I had last
> week a user that asked how to establish the internet connection
> without setting it to "dialup at boot" and reboot. (<= LOL)

yes, mdk needs something like kinternet. There frequently are questions
about ISDN dialup in newsgroups, people just don't understand why they
cannot use kppp or a similar tool for ISDN.

> I guess I could help you on that. ;) The pppd manpages proposes to use
> peer scripts. A user can execute pppd , but can only do well defined
> things. One of this things is to start defined dial up connections.
> This connections are configured under /etc/ppp/peers/, for example
> /etc/ppp/peers/isp1. pppd call isp1 would start the dialup then. The
> pppd should be running as uid root then so no ownership of devices
> needs to be changed.
>  (I know you have not asked ;))

<takes notes> thanks
 
> Related question:
> Where do the device settigs belong to ? Are they initially set by the
> kernel package ? 

I /think/ they are handled by devfs but don't sue me on that. I never
could muster enough motivation to get into devfs. 

> _If_ you going to make it, I have yet another bug open for some
> changes on isdn4k-utils-packaging and i can mail you a .config for the
> package.

great!

> Since there are no important security flaws in it I guess it
> is to late. BTW: The vbox-examples are missing too. (another open bug
> from me ;))

I saw the reports and noticed the avalanche of replies
 
> I know all that has time now, but maybe it would be good for next
> release. 

definitely, Germany (=ISDN country) is the second largest market next to
the US. I just don't understand how mdk can afford to surrender that
market to SuSE. I've personally converted lots of people to Mandrake but
I always am somwhat reluctant when I meet people with ISDN because of
the rather suboptimal ISDN support of mdk.

- Mark

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