i am new here, where  is the mall?
is it located in alabama? the 1 800
number in this email is that the contact
number for dale where i can purchase
a thermoter? are they exspensive?
i am on disability with limited income.
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 Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 22:26:34 -0500
 From: "Lenore Koszalinski" <[email protected]>
 To: <[email protected]>,   
 "'betty hatton'"
     <[email protected]>
 Subject: Re: [CnD] Cookinginthedark Digest, Vol 60, Issue
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 Thephone number too speak too me is 1800 248 99 65 They have
 talking
 themomators. Lenore
 
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 On
 Behalf Of betty hatton via Cookinginthedark
 Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 4:20 PM
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 Subject: Re: [CnD] Cookinginthedark Digest, Vol 60, Issue
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 Just sharing what I done on burgers
 and pork chops. I am legally blind,
 I have some vision I can see a few feet
 but its not good enough to depend on
 for cooking! I use a timer.
 I had a sited person so I turned
 my eye on medium heat and I marked
 it so I know where medium heat is
 and with a sited person i timed
 how long it took to cook it to get it done.
 So thats what i do each time now,
 I use my timer.
 I would like to find me a talking
 thermoter though.
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  Message: 1
  Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 11:15:35 -0700
  From: "Kimsan" <[email protected]>
  To: <[email protected]>
  Subject: [CnD] cooking tips
  Message-ID:
  <[email protected]>
  Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset="us-ascii"
  
  First, thank you to all that welcomed me with open 
 arms.? I hesitated to
 post my questions as in my part of the world, peoples
 view  being blind, one
 cannot achieve much, let alone cook. I'm doubted for
 just  aboot everything
 lol.? Here is my question, which I hope will not
 insult  anyone, but before
 I  lost lots of hearing in the past couple of years, I
 have  always used
 what  folks told me back in the day as it relates to
 cooking  things on the
 stove  i.e George formen to listen out for the sizzling
 and  popping, and?
 that when  the sizzling and popping "calms down" the
 meats are ready,  so my
 question is  whether if you are hard of hearing or not,
 how do you know  if
 something is  fully cooked when you cannot see the
 color of the said
 product being cooked,  this is just not for cooking on
 the George formen
 grill, or  cooking bacon on  the stove, I've
 always wondered about baking
 chicken/porkchops as well.
  Right now, I have my daughter double check lol, but one
 day  she might be
 off  somewhere and I am here to "double check" myself.
  
   
  
  Thanks.
  
  "Success is the result of perfection, hard work,
 learning  from failure,
 loyalty and persistence." Colin Powell
  
   
  
  
  
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  Message: 2
  Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:30:22 -0400
  From: Jessica D <[email protected]>
  To: "[email protected]"
  <[email protected]>,
  ??? Kimsan <[email protected]>
  Subject: Re: [CnD] cooking tips
  Message-ID: <[email protected]>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  
  You could try stabbing it with a fork. You can look
 online  to see what
 things are supposed to feel like. I'm sure a  Google
 search will tell you.
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  > On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Kimsan via
 Cookinginthedark
 <[email protected]>
  wrote:
  >
  > First, thank you to all that welcomed me with
 open  arms.? I hesitated to
 > post my questions as in my part of the world,
 peoples  view being blind,
 one  > cannot achieve much, let alone cook. I'm
 doubted for  just aboot
 everything  > lol.? Here is my question, which I
 hope will not  insult
 anyone, but before I  > lost lots of hearing in the
 past couple of years, I
 have always used what  > folks told me back in the
 day as it relates to
 cooking  things on the stove  > i.e George
 formen to listen out for the
 sizzling and  popping, and? that when  > the
 sizzling and popping "calms
 down" the meats are  ready, so my question is 
 > whether if you are hard of
 hearing or not, how do you  know if something is 
 > fully cooked when you
 cannot see the color of the said  product being
 cooked,  > this is just not
 for cooking on the George formen  grill, or cooking
 bacon on  > the stove,
 I've always wondered about baking  chicken/porkchops as
 well.
  > Right now, I have my daughter double check lol, but
 one  day she might be
 off  > somewhere and I am here to "double check"
 myself.
  >
  >
  >
  > Thanks.
  >
  > "Success is the result of perfection, hard work, 
 learning from failure,
 > loyalty and persistence." Colin Powell  > 
 >  >  >
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  Message: 3
  Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 14:31:15 -0400
  From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected],
  Kimsan <[email protected]>
  Subject: Re: [CnD] cooking tips
  Message-ID: <[email protected]>
  Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset=us-ascii
  
  This isn't good for everything, but for baking meats,
 you  can check the
 temperature. Get a talking thermometer, or use  an
 iGrill linked to an iOS
 device and braille display if you  have to. I know the
 latter is expensive,
 more so if you  don't already have an iOS device, but
 that's all I can think
 of. For stovetop meats, or a rough guess on other meats,
 you  can try a fork
 test. If the fork goes into the meat with a  good
 amount of resistance, the
 food isn't ready. Once the  fork can go on pretty
 easily, it's probably
 done. With both  the fork and the thermometer, don't
 forget to test the
 thickest parts of the meat, and check a few places.
 For  thermometers,
 remember to not hit any bones, as they will  throw off
 the temperature
 reading.
  On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Kimsan via Cookinginthedark
 <[email protected]>
  wrote:
  
  > First, thank you to all that welcomed me with
 open  arms.? I hesitated to
 > post my questions as in my part of the world,
 peoples  view being blind,
 one  > cannot achieve much, let alone cook. I'm
 doubted for  just aboot
 everything  > lol.? Here is my question, which I
 hope will not  insult
 anyone, but before I  > lost lots of hearing in the
 past couple of years, I
 have always used what  > folks told me back in the
 day as it relates to
 cooking  things on the stove  > i.e George
 formen to listen out for the
 sizzling and  popping, and? that when  > the
 sizzling and popping "calms
 down" the meats are  ready, so my question is 
 > whether if you are hard of
 hearing or not, how do you  know if something is 
 > fully cooked when you
 cannot see the color of the said  product being
 cooked,  > this is just not
 for cooking on the George formen  grill, or cooking
 bacon on  > the stove,
 I've always wondered about baking  chicken/porkchops as
 well.
  > Right now, I have my daughter double check lol, but
 one  day she might be
 off  > somewhere and I am here to "double check"
 myself.
  >
  >
  >
  > Thanks.
  >
  > "Success is the result of perfection, hard work, 
 learning from failure,
 > loyalty and persistence." Colin Powell  > 
 >  >  >
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  [email protected]
  
  
  
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  Message: 4
  Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 11:55:21 -0700
  From: "Kimsan" <[email protected]>
  To: "'Jessica D'" <[email protected]>,
  ??? <[email protected]>
  Subject: Re: [CnD] cooking tips
  Message-ID:
  <[email protected]>
  Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset="us-ascii"
  
  Thanks Jessica!
  I google quite a bit and one of my resources is this
 list,  but to alex,
 which ap are you using for the iphone to do such a thing,
 or  should I
 google  that one to smile.
  
   "Success is the result of perfection, hard work,
 learning  from failure,
 loyalty and persistence." Colin Powell
  
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jessica D [mailto:[email protected]]
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:30 AM
  To: [email protected];
  Kimsan
  Subject: Re: [CnD] cooking tips
  
  You could try stabbing it with a fork. You can look
 online  to see what
 things are supposed to feel like. I'm sure a Google
 search  will tell you.
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  > On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Kimsan via 
 Cookinginthedark
 <[email protected]>
  wrote:
  >
  > First, thank you to all that welcomed me with
 open  arms.? I hesitated  >
 to post my questions as in my part of the world, 
 peoples view being  >
 blind, one cannot achieve much, let alone cook. I'm 
 doubted for just  >
 aboot everything lol.? Here is my question, which  I
 hope will not  > insult
 anyone, but before I lost lots of hearing in the  past
 couple of  > years, I
 have always used what folks told me back in  the day as
 it  > relates to
 cooking things on the stove i.e George  formen to
 listen out  > for the
 sizzling and popping, and? that when the  sizzling and
 popping  > "calms
 down" the meats are ready, so my question is  whether
 if you are  > hard of
 hearing or not, how do you know if something is  fully
 cooked  > when you
 cannot see the color of the said product being  cooked,
 this  > is just not
 for cooking on the George formen grill, or  cooking
 bacon on  the stove,
 I've always wondered about baking  chicken/porkchops as
 well.
  > Right now, I have my daughter double check lol, but
 one  day she might  >
 be off somewhere and I am here to "double check"
  myself.
  >
  >
  >
  > Thanks.
  >
  > "Success is the result of perfection, hard work, 
 learning from  >
 failure, loyalty and persistence." Colin Powell 
 >  >  >  >
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  Message: 5
  Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:01:16 -0400
  From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected],
  Kimsan <[email protected]>
  Subject: Re: [CnD] cooking tips
  Message-ID: <[email protected]>
  Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset=us-ascii
  
  The iGrill is a bluetooth-enabled thermometer. It goes
 in  the meat, then
 has a wire to the bluetooth box so said box  can stay
 safely out of the way,
 rather like one of those  thermometers you can stick on
 your fridge and
 watch. The  cool part is that there's an iGrill app for
 your iPhone,  iPad,
 or iPod Touch. You can check the temperature, set 
 alerts to let you know
 when things are done, and so forth.
  If you're interested, I know there's a podcast about it,
 but  I can't
 remember if it's on AppleVis.com or somewhere else.
  Either way, if you use a braille display with your
 phone  already, this
 might be your easiest option.
  On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Kimsan via Cookinginthedark
 <[email protected]>
  wrote:
  
  > Thanks Jessica!
  > I google quite a bit and one of my resources is
 this  list, but to alex,
 > which ap are you using for the iphone to do such
 a  thing, or should I
 google  > that one to smile.
  >
  > "Success is the result of perfection, hard work, 
 learning from failure,
 > loyalty and persistence." Colin Powell  > 
 > -----Original Message-----  >
 From: Jessica D [mailto:[email protected]]
  
  > Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:30 AM  >
 To:
 [email protected]; 
 Kimsan  > Subject: Re: [CnD] cooking tips 
 >
 > You could try stabbing it with a fork. You can
 look  online to see what  >
 things are supposed to feel like. I'm sure a Google 
 search will tell you.
  >
  > Sent from my iPhone
  >
  >> On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Kimsan via 
 Cookinginthedark  >
 <[email protected]>
  wrote:
  >>
  >> First, thank you to all that welcomed me with
 open  arms.? I hesitated
 >> to post my questions as in my part of the
 world,  peoples view being  >>
 blind, one cannot achieve much, let alone cook. I'm 
 doubted for just  >>
 aboot everything lol.? Here is my question,  which I
 hope will not  >>
 insult anyone, but before I lost lots of hearing in 
 the past couple of  >>
 years, I have always used what folks told me back  in
 the day as it  >>
 relates to cooking things on the stove i.e George 
 formen to listen out  >>
 for the sizzling and popping, and? that when  the
 sizzling and popping  >>
 "calms down" the meats are ready, so my question is 
 whether if you are  >>
 hard of hearing or not, how do you know if  something
 is fully cooked  >>
 when you cannot see the color of the said product 
 being cooked, this  >> is
 just not for cooking on the George formen grill,  or
 cooking bacon on  > the
 stove, I've always wondered about baking 
 chicken/porkchops as well.
  >> Right now, I have my daughter double check lol,
 but  one day she might
 >> be off somewhere and I am here to "double check"
  myself.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Thanks.
  >>
  >> "Success is the result of perfection, hard
 work,  learning from  >>
 failure, loyalty and persistence." Colin Powell 
 >>  >>  >>  >>
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  [email protected]
  
  
  
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  Message: 6
  Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:33:48 -0700
  From: janbrown <[email protected]>
  To: "[email protected]"
  <[email protected]>,
  ??? Alex Hall <[email protected]>
  Subject: Re: [CnD] cooking tips
  Message-ID: <[email protected]>
  Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset=us-ascii
  
  The i-Grill works well.
  I think there is a second one something like i-Grill II
 or  something of
 the sort.
  
  I stopped using it because I am not really a big fan of
 the  internet of
 things and didn't like being linked to my phone  just
 to know when something
 is done.
  But, it really works well and gives you a range of 
 temperatures so you can
 determine both if your meat is safe  to eat and whether
 it is medium well
 done or any other level  of doneness. 
  
  Jan
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  > On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Alex Hall via 
 Cookinginthedark
 <[email protected]>
  wrote:
  >
  > The iGrill is a bluetooth-enabled thermometer. It
 goes  in the meat, then
 has a wire to the bluetooth box so said  box can stay
 safely out of the way,
 rather like one of those  thermometers you can stick on
 your fridge and
 watch. The  cool part is that there's an iGrill app for
 your iPhone,  iPad,
 or iPod Touch. You can check the temperature, set 
 alerts to let you know
 when things are done, and so forth.
  If you're interested, I know there's a podcast about it,
 but  I can't
 remember if it's on AppleVis.com or somewhere else.
  Either way, if you use a braille display with your
 phone  already, this
 might be your easiest option.
  >> On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Kimsan via 
 Cookinginthedark
 <[email protected]>
  wrote:
  >>
  >> Thanks Jessica!
  >> I google quite a bit and one of my resources
 is  this list, but to alex,
 >> which ap are you using for the iphone to do such
 a  thing, or should I
 google  >> that one to smile.
  >>
  >> "Success is the result of perfection, hard
 work,  learning from failure,
 >> loyalty and persistence." Colin Powell 
 >>  >> -----Original Message-----
 >> From: Jessica D [mailto:[email protected]]
  
  >> Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:30 AM 
 >> To:
 [email protected]; 
 Kimsan  >> Subject: Re: [CnD] cooking tips
 >>  >> You could try stabbing it with a
 fork. You can look  online to see
 what  >> things are supposed to feel like. I'm
 sure a Google  search will
 tell you.
  >>
  >> Sent from my iPhone
  >>
  >>>> On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Kimsan
 via  Cookinginthedark  >>>
 <[email protected]>
  wrote:
  >>>
  >>> First, thank you to all that welcomed me
 with  open arms.? I hesitated
 >>> to post my questions as in my part of the 
 world, peoples view being
 >>> blind, one cannot achieve much, let alone
 cook.
  I'm doubted for just
  >>> aboot everything lol.? Here is my
  question, which I hope will not
  >>> insult anyone, but before I lost lots of 
 hearing in the past couple of
 >>> years, I have always used what folks told
 me  back in the day as it  >>>
 relates to cooking things on the stove i.e  George
 formen to listen out  >>>
 for the sizzling and popping, and? that  when the
 sizzling and popping  >>>
 "calms down" the meats are ready, so my  question is
 whether if you are  >>>
 hard of hearing or not, how do you know if  something
 is fully cooked  >>>
 when you cannot see the color of the said  product
 being cooked, this  >>>
 is just not for cooking on the George formen  grill, or
 cooking bacon on  >>
 the stove, I've always wondered about baking 
 chicken/porkchops as well.
  >>> Right now, I have my daughter double check
 lol,  but one day she might
 >>> be off somewhere and I am here to "double 
 check" myself.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> Thanks.
  >>>
  >>> "Success is the result of perfection,
 hard  work, learning from  >>>
 failure, loyalty and persistence." Colin  Powell 
 >>>  >>>  >>> 
 >>>
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  >>> Cookinginthedark mailing list
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 Message: 2
 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 21:16:17 -0700
 From: "Kimsan" <[email protected]>
 To: <[email protected]>
 Subject: [CnD] drumbsticks on the small george formen
 Message-ID:
 <[email protected]>
 Content-Type: text/plain;   
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 So, I mentioned I would make drumbsticks today, and I did.
 It took 32
 minutes lol. I like it better in the crockpot, but I didn't
 feel like
 waiting six hours and eat at 2 in the morning, lol. Someone
 give me an oven!
 Smile.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 "Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning
 from failure,
 loyalty and persistence." Colin Powell
 
  
 
 
 
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 Message: 3
 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 23:50:39 -0500
 From: "Charles Rivard" <[email protected]>
 To: <[email protected]>,   
 "Kimsan" <[email protected]>
 Subject: Re: [CnD] drumbsticks on the small george formen
 Message-ID: <E51D0DF375224C06A393B845372E6224@D4FY50L1>
 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
 charset="iso-8859-1";
     reply-type=original
 
 How many drumsticks?  What, if anything, did you coat
 them with or marinade 
 them in?  And what temperature setting did you
 use?  Thanks.
 
 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you
 think you're finished, 
 you! really! are! finished!
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "Kimsan via Cookinginthedark" <[email protected]>
 To: <[email protected]>
 Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 11:16 PM
 Subject: [CnD] drumbsticks on the small george formen
 
 
 > So, I mentioned I would make drumbsticks today, and I
 did. It took 32
 > minutes lol. I like it better in the crockpot, but I
 didn't feel like
 > waiting six hours and eat at 2 in the morning, lol.
 Someone give me an 
 > oven!
 > Smile.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > "Success is the result of perfection, hard work,
 learning from failure,
 > loyalty and persistence." Colin Powell
 >
 >
 >
 > _______________________________________________
 > Cookinginthedark mailing list
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 > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark 
 
 
 
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