I will send a message to the NFB group and le t you know.

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Of Ron Kolesar via Cookinginthedark
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What's the bill please?
To hopefully get equal access to goods and services that the sighted already 
take advantage of with their normal sight, I'd sign it.
Many thanks.
Ron KR3DOG

-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Thompson via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 17:26
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Cc: Jennifer Thompson
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Actually there is no law in place yet for technology, there is a bill being 
worked on now.


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fryer.

Hello,

There is a law here in the U.S., but not everybody wants to do this, to make 
all technologies accessible for the blind and low vision people.

Marie


On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:59 AM Jennifer Thompson via Cookinginthedark < 
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> Yes, this is a reason why I feel a law should be put in place for
> technology to be accessible.
>
>
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> On Behalf Of Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 12:30 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More information that Jonah mentioned about the XL
> air fryer.
>
> Sometimes that is exactly what must happen. It is a dumb way to have
> to operate, but there sometimes simply isn't a choice. I have found
> lately that the samples in the stores now are often mock ups and not
> the real thing. That means you can't tell anyway if it will work when
> you order it because they don't have the model you want in the store
> and have to order it for you anyway. Now with more things going to the
> order online policy, I fear it will get even harder to find what you are 
> looking for in the stores.
>
> Pamela Fairchild
> <[email protected]>
>
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> Cc: Jennifer Thompson <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More information that Jonah mentioned about the XL
> air fryer.
>
> Yes this is why I wish I could look at one at the store.
> I do not want to order one just to see if it will work.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 11:35 AM
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> Subject: Re: [CnD] More information that Jonah mentioned about the XL
> air fryer.
>
> To tell the truth, I am not sure how to tell the difference without
> seeing them.  Does anybody know if those are called a touch pad or
> something to distinguish them from a plain glass screen?  This is why
> I am confused as well.
>
> These days, even if we have stores in our area that have them, I know
> I can't go.  I'm high risk living with another person who is high risk.
> Isn't it great to be high risk?
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Jennifer Thompson via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 11:33 AM
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> Cc: Jennifer Thompson <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More information that Jonah mentioned about the XL
> air fryer.
>
> Okay I understand this, but I want to make sure it is not a touch screen.
> Just to make it clear a touch screen like the I-phone would not work.
> It needs to be a flat screen like a microwave.
> If it is  a touch screen I will not have any way to control it.
>
>
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> air fryer.
>
> The regular version I previously had has dials that had no start and
> stop point, they are digital.
> That's why I purchased the plus model.
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> Behalf Of meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 11:57 AM
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> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More information that Jonah mentioned about the XL
> air fryer.
>
> I think there is a difference between knobs and dials.  If it is a
> knob that starts in one place and has settings along that can be
> marked, that is fine.  But some of these machines have some kind of
> digital dials that change when they move and do not revert back to the
> same place when no longer in use.  You don't want these because there
> is no way they can be made accessible.
>
> The ones with the touch pad, sort of like a microwave, even if not
> shaped that way, these are also accessible, though they also have to
> be labeled or memorized.  The Instant Pot has this kind of panel,
> though it is not, of course, an air fryer.  Some of this type of
> machine can also be run from an app, which may or may not be
> accessible.  All this is why it is so complicated.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Jennifer Thompson via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:52 AM
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> Cc: Jennifer Thompson <[email protected]>
> Subject: [CnD] More information that Jonah mentioned about the XL air
> fryer.
>
> Here is information about the air fryer that  Wall Mart has.
>
> It is not exactly the same that Jonah mentioned, so I do not know
> witch one to get.
>
> Also someone from the office for the blind said knobs are better why?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> ​It is still the Vortex brand, but yes, it is not the Vortex PowerXL.
>
>
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