The MOU is published here https://www.ripe.net/about-us/what-we-do/ncc-euralo-mou.pdf
Together with other MOUs https://www.ripe.net/about-us/what-we-do/engagement-external-organisations On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 at 14:02, Michele Neylon - Blacknight < [email protected]> wrote: > Alexander > > It was discussed briefly on the EURALO mailing list > > I've no idea what if any value it brings. > > Olivier might be able to enlighten us. > > Regards > > Michele > > > -- > Mr Michele Neylon > Blacknight Solutions > Hosting, Colocation & Domains > https://www.blacknight.com/ > http://blacknight.blog/ > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 > Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ > Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ > ------------------------------- > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty > Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > On 02/11/2017, 06:31, "cooperation-wg on behalf of Alexander Isavnin" < > [email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: > > Congratulations! > > Another one MoU signed. RIPE NCC and EURALO. > I have really strange feeling about it. > Like my Right hand establishes Memorandum of Understanding with my > Left hand: as member of ISOC Russian Chapter which is member of EURALO do i > need to memorandumize understanding with me as representative of member of > RIPE NCC? > Do Axel Pawlik needs additional understanding with Olivier > Crepin-Leblond? > > And there are more questions: > What kind of additional understanding needed between such > organizations? > Why it 's so urgent to sign up MoU for 2 European organizations no > close to Europe than Abu-Dhabi? > How to measure reasonability of such memorandums? > > And even more, really important: > How to control effectiveness and outcome of such MoUs? > I have sad example of MoU with Russian Telco Ministry. > NOTHING done from Russian Ministry side. Ministry promises to > understand and promote RACI. Well, Ministry have educational institutions > of professional and high education. NO RACI submissions to ENOG programme > at all. > (also question effectiveness of RACI in region). > > So, i want to rise discussion about such MoUs. > I do not feel need of such MoUs just to do something, or demonstrate > "external relations" activities or demonstrate cooperation just to have > possibility to report on cooperation. > > In some cases "non-legal binding document" harmless for Europeans > could be dangerous for others: mentioned MoU with Russian telco ministry - > brings words "IP address" and "database" to official language of telco > regulator, dreaming of "enforced routing registry". > > There only one really important MoU - one around RIR system. > Having number of meaningless documents around really inflates > importance of that MoU. > > Also, no discussions prior and announcements were made. > Even no news is published, no possibility to see text of this MoU (at > this moment). > > Kind regards, > Alexander Isavnin > > Sent via RIPE Forum -- https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum > > > > -- -- Hans Petter Holen Mobile +47 45 06 60 54 | [email protected] | http://hph.oslo.net
