Hi, Dr. Starosielski wrote a good book about undersea cables and their vulnerability. https://www.dukeupress.edu/the-undersea-network
Might be of interest. best, On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send cooperation-wg mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/cooperation-wg > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cooperation-wg digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Undersea cables (Gordon Lennox) > 2. Re: Undersea cables (Julius ter Pelkwijk) > 3. Re: Undersea cables (Jim Reid) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:35:17 +0100 > From: Gordon Lennox <[email protected]> > To: Cooperation WG <[email protected]> > Subject: [cooperation-wg] Undersea cables > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > A new report on an old problem. > > << We must do more to protect the indispensable yet insecure internet > infrastructure provided by undersea cables, urges Rishi Sunak MP in a new > report published by Policy Exchange, Undersea Cables: Indispensable, > insecure. > > 97% of global communications and $10 trillion in daily financial > transactions are transmitted not by satellites in the skies, but by cables > lying deep beneath the ocean. Undersea cables are the indispensable > infrastructure of our time, essential to our modern life and digital > economy, yet they are inadequately protected and highly vulnerable to > attack at sea and on land, from both hostile states and terrorists. > > US intelligence officials have spoken of Russian submarines ?aggressively > operating? near Atlantic cables as part of its broader interest in > unconventional methods of warfare. When Russia annexed Crimea, one of its > first moves was to sever the main cable connection to the outside world. > > Undersea cables come ashore in just a few remote, coastal locations. These > landing sites are critical national infrastructure but often have minimal > protection, making them vulnerable to terrorism. A foiled Al-Qaeda plot to > destroy a key London internet exchange in 2007 illustrates the credibility > of the threat. >> > > See: > > https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/undersea-cables- > indispensable-insecure/ > > And so governments must now do something? > > Gordon > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 18:51:16 +0000 > From: Julius ter Pelkwijk <[email protected]> > To: Gordon Lennox <[email protected]> > Cc: Cooperation WG <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Undersea cables > Message-ID: > <CAAiMRCT3K=_9MAL18r=jo+2CJ=JTMNKfQ23k51-McqozvmxgtQ@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Gordon, > > You mean this one? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_communications_cable > > All you need is a shovel and a big axe, and a lot of patience. If you give > me enough time I might even be able to find one of those endpoints. Yes, > the problem exists, and yes, when the internet goes slower than usual there > will be panic, but from what I know is that these "connections" are more > robust than people actually think. Its a storm in a glass of water. > > Julius > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 7:35 PM Gordon Lennox <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > A new report on an old problem. > > > > << We must do more to protect the indispensable yet insecure internet > > infrastructure provided by undersea cables, urges Rishi Sunak MP in a new > > report published by Policy Exchange, Undersea Cables: Indispensable, > > insecure. > > > > 97% of global communications and $10 trillion in daily financial > > transactions are transmitted not by satellites in the skies, but by > cables > > lying deep beneath the ocean. Undersea cables are the indispensable > > infrastructure of our time, essential to our modern life and digital > > economy, yet they are inadequately protected and highly vulnerable to > > attack at sea and on land, from both hostile states and terrorists. > > > > US intelligence officials have spoken of Russian submarines ?aggressively > > operating? near Atlantic cables as part of its broader interest in > > unconventional methods of warfare. When Russia annexed Crimea, one of its > > first moves was to sever the main cable connection to the outside world. > > > > Undersea cables come ashore in just a few remote, coastal locations. > These > > landing sites are critical national infrastructure but often have minimal > > protection, making them vulnerable to terrorism. A foiled Al-Qaeda plot > to > > destroy a key London internet exchange in 2007 illustrates the > credibility > > of the threat. >> > > > > See: > > > > > > https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/undersea-cables- > indispensable-insecure/ > > > > And so governments must now do something? > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/cooperation-wg/ > attachments/20171205/055a54b4/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:40:24 +0000 > From: Jim Reid <[email protected]> > To: Gordon Lennox <[email protected]> > Cc: Cooperation WG <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Undersea cables > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > > On 5 Dec 2017, at 18:35, Gordon Lennox <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > And so governments must now do something? > > Well, what do you think governments (and others) should do about this? > [Perhaps they already have taken precautions and aren't going to make that > public for obvious reasons.] And more importantly, what is or should be the > role of this WG in those actions? > > FWIW these cables get damaged from time to time anyway. ISTR a few years > ago a ship dropped an anchor in a rather unfortunate location in the > Mediterranean and that caused interweb traffic between Europe and Asia to > go via America for a few days until the cable(s) got fixed. > > Most countries should have sufficient redundancy in their physical cables > and landing stations. However that may not be the case for small isolated > communities that are far away from where cables tend to be installed. > There's always satellite as a backup I suppose. > > > End of cooperation-wg Digest, Vol 71, Issue 1 > ********************************************* > -- Corinne Cath Ph.D. Candidate, Oxford Internet Institute & Alan Turing Institute Web: www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/corinne-cath Email: [email protected] & [email protected] Twitter: @C_Cath
