Hi all,

Just wanted to follow up on my earlier posting... I presented the Loudness War paper at the Audio Engineering Society convention in November. The game theory analysis is not very rigorous, but it gets the idea across. If you're interested in the topic, I've posted a 20-minute video based on the presentation, http://www.sfxmachine.com/docs/loudnesswar/ .

Happy & cooperative 2011,

Earl


Hi Howard and all,

Glad to find this group!

I'm finishing up a paper for the Audio Engineering Society that analyzes the "loudness war" in terms of game theory and cooperation theory. Basically, the loudness war involves the fact that record companies are applying more and more dynamic range compression to CDs to try to make each one louder than all the others. As a result, CDs now have less dynamic range than a 1909 Edison cylinder (!), and people end up tuning out because of listening fatigue and lack of dynamics and excitement. (This has nothing to do with the final playback volume - listeners have their own volume controls and can turn it up as loud as they want - it just relates to producers squashing the dynamics.)

So the idea is that each company tries to make their CDs the loudest, but since everyone is doing that, they end up with no real advantage, and it may be adversely affecting the overall industry - a typical social dilemma. Among other things, I'm presenting some studies showing that we may have gone to loudness war based on a lie: while listeners do prefer the louder of two otherwise identical recordings, loudness appears to have an insignificant effect when choosing between two different songs. Also, there appears to be no significant correlation between loudness and sales rankings. It looks like people may buy music primarily because they like it, not because it's louder than other music.

I'm looking for a real-world example of people playing the wrong game based on false assumptions - for example, playing a non-(prisoner's)-dilemma as if it were a dilemma, or playing a non-zero-sum game as if it were zero-sum. Any ideas?

Earl
http://www.sfxmachine.com

Thanks for nudging us awake again, Robert. I know that several people have joined in recent weeks. I am still interested in the subject and I use http://cooperationcommons.com -- especially the summaries -- all the time.


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On Sep 1, 2010, at 9:16 AM, Robert Link wrote:



 CoCos,

 We've been quiet quite a while. What are folks up to? I have added a
 handful of new names to the list today, and hope they will each
 introduce themselves to the group. Likewise, it would be great to hear
 from each and everyone one of you. Does CoCo still represent a resource
 to you? How best can we reactivate you? You, personally, as an
 individual?

 As for me, I've taken the California Bar a 3rd time since my last post,
 and am currently working on setting up a drupal site for a local
 volunteer board. This put me on the #drupal-support channel in freenode,
 where I spotted one of our own.

 Peace,

 rl

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