Hi Andrew,

active (or quad-buffered, sequential, hardware) stereo 3D is possible on a MacPro, at least with a Nvidia Quadro card with a 3-pin Mini-DIN socket, Stereographics/realD or NuVision shutter glasses and emitter, and a suitable CRT monitor. But those are hard to find, nowadays (i.e., used monitors on eBay and alike).

I never heard whether this also works with a stereo TFT monitor and Nvidia glasses and emitter. But a colleague of mine next door runs this under Linux. So, I just plugged in the Nvidia emitter to the USB and 3-pin-Mini-DIN sockets on my MacPro, and connected a Samsung 3D stereo-capable monitor. I could set the TFT monitor to 120 Hz, and Chimera switches to sequential stereo, but, unfortunately, the Nvidia emitter does not work together with the Mac (it blinks red instead of a steady green light). Next test was to replace the Nvidia emitter with my Stereographics emitter. This time, I do see something that reminds me of stereo, but with heavy ghosting and blending of different depths through the molecule - so, in short, it's not usable.

Hope, that helps.

Best regards,

Dirk.


Am 07.07.11 21:48, schrieb Andrew T. Torelli:
Hi everyone,

        The recent post about running coot on a powermac G5 has me a little 
confused because I thought the only option for stereo on a Mac was to use a 
Zalman monitor for passive stereo.  I'm clearly missing something.  Is it true 
that active stereo with 120 Hz LCD monitors is not possible with a Mac?  I'm 
considering taking the plunge to switch over to Mac entirely, but one source of 
hesitation is that I prefer active stereo and would like to move to LCDs if 
possible.
        Assuming I'm still correct that 120 Hz LCD active stereo is not 
compatible with Macs, is it also true that this is unlikely to change in the 
foreseeable future (i.e. Apple or Nvidia don't see enough financial benefit to 
correct the problems ergo there is little driving force)?

Thank you for the enlightenment,
-Andy Torelli

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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark J van Raaij
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 5:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: coot on powermac G5 running Tiger

Hi Juergen,

I have tried using fink before, but a precompiled binary would be easier...
I think Snow Leopard is incompatible with the G5 (and with ppc in general).
Leopard would work, I might try this if I can get an installation disk and 
nobody has a binary compiled for 10.4 (Bill Scotts page does not have it 
anymore for new versions of coot).
There are some rumours that Leopard broke the stereo, but also that the latest 
updates fix it again.

Mark


Mark J van Raaij
Laboratorio M-4
Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
c/Darwin 3, Campus Cantoblanco
E-28049 Madrid, Spain
tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
http://www.cnb.csic.es/content/research/macromolecular/mvraaij




On 2 Jul 2011, at 16:25, Bosch, Juergen wrote:

Hi Mark,

have you ever tried using fink ? You don't need to do much to compile it 
yourself with the help of fink.
Here's the link to fink (or better to Bill Scott's fink it yourself page)
http://sage.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Getting_your_fink_installation_to_use_packages_that_I_have_pre-compiled

You will need Apple's Xcode, which you can get after registration for free. 
Once you have installed fink you really only type fink install [name of program 
you want], hit a couple of times y (yes) or whatever default value is requested.
You have to do the usual edits in your .bashrc or .cshrc file to point X11 to 
your fink binary.
You also have the option to download precompiled binaries, but not sure if Bill 
keeps still 10.4 - you might want to upgrade to Snow Leopard.

Jürgen

On Jul 2, 2011, at 7:28 AM, Mark J van Raaij wrote:

Dear All,

My second computer in the office is a Powermac G5 with MaxOSX 10.4 equipped 
with a stereo-capable CRT and Nuvision emitter/glasses. I would like to install 
coot on this, pref. prebuilt because I am hopeless at compiling...
The most recent build I could find is 0.5.2 ueno on Bill Scotts website - 
anyone know of a more recent version compiled and compatible with our system.
would stereo work with a more recent version of coot?

greetings,

Mark
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Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
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