A related meta comment.

Our community uses X509 for a single-sign-on solution for a few thousand physicists. There's been increased interest in HDFS lately, and it would be very attractive to this community if Hadoop used a lightweight, but secure solution based upon Kerberos as in HADOOP-4343 (something like kerberos to initialize a session token and use that with the service).

This would be especially useful because the likely implementation would use JSSE - we'd be able to replace the kerberos implementation and, with a little work, drop the Globus implementation into place. We'd be able to use our single-sign-on and make the organization very happy.

Brian

On Mar 24, 2009, at 11:29 PM, Raghu Angadi wrote:


I haven't looked into the proposal, but a meta comment:

I don't think there is a real reason for Hadoop to favor this design or only stay with HADOOP-4343 or another proposal at this state. It is healthy if we have different designs and implementation proceed independently. If you are willing to, I think you should proceed with a prototype so that others interested can play with. This is true not just for this feature, but many others as well.

This of course should not discourage others from reviewing your design.

Raghu.

Amandeep Khurana wrote:
Bouncing the thread... Waiting to hear from people about the proposal.
Amandeep Khurana
Computer Science Graduate Student
University of California, Santa Cruz
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Amandeep Khurana <ama...@gmail.com> wrote:
1. The Jira covers only authentication using Kerberos. I dont think
Kerberos is the best way to do it since I feel the scalability is limited. All keys have to be negotiated by the Kerberos server. The design in the
paper has a little different protocol for authentication.

2. The Jira doesnt have cover the access control aspect of things. As a client, I can skip talking to the NN and get blocks from the DN straight away. There is no way to prevent it. This paper takes care of that aspect as
well.


Amandeep Khurana
Computer Science Graduate Student
University of California, Santa Cruz


On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Doug Cutting <cutt...@apache.org> wrote:

Amandeep Khurana wrote:

http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~akhurana/Hadoop_Security.pdf<http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/%7Eakhurana/Hadoop_Security.pdf >

How does this relate to the current proposal in Jira?

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-4343

Doug



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