Enum and EnumSet *are* good, but the problem is the overhead of
representation. If all you want is 32 bits to play with, you pay exactly 4
bytes in price if using int. With EnumSet, you pay object/heap overhead -
on x64, 4 bytes vs 24; you pay GC price if you have lots of objects with
embedded EnumSet instances in them, there's indirection in loading/passing
them, etc
Until JVM supports/implements value type/structure semantics, the overhead
for these types of things continues to be an eyebrow raising issue.
Sorry Josh, I know this isn't related to Spliterator directly and you did
say that bit fields are *usually* not a good idea, but just wanted to throw
this out there as more a plea for Oracle to do something about struct/value
type hole. :)
Sent from my phone
On Mar 28, 2013 3:38 PM, "Joshua Bloch" <j...@bloch.us> wrote:
> Doug,
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Doug Lea <d...@cs.oswego.edu> wrote:
>
> > On 03/28/13 14:52, Joshua Bloch wrote:
> >
> >> Doug,
> >>
> >> I don't get it. You can set and unset flags on your own EnumSet. Why
> >> isn't that
> >> sufficient?
> >>
> >
> > There are a lot of problems. First, even
> > though most spliterators will return the same set of
> > characteristics each time, you can't just create one static one:
> >
> > class MySpliterator { ...
> > static final EnumSet<Characteristics> cs = EnumSet.of(...);
> > EnumSet<Characteristics> characteristics() return cs; }
> > }
> >
> > ... because you cannot risk that no one will modify.
> >
>
> Sounds like a perfect opportunity to put in immutableEnumSet, which is
> trivial to implement and generally useful. Alternatively, don't share, and
> see if the performance it good enough. (I suspect it will be.)
>
> Second, when inside streams, you'd have to create a new EnumSet
> > Object across each stage, that somehow secretly extends the
> > public Characteristics with non-public internal control flags.
> > Which means either some slow conversion table or grabbing
> > private EnumSet internals.
> >
>
> Or having two EnumSets: one public, consisting of public constants, and one
> private, consisting of private constants. Again, doesn't sound like a big
> deal.
>
> So it is both slow and painful.
>
>
> You haven't convinced me of either (yet). Did you measure the performance?
>
>
> > I tried to make it less so,
> > knowing that people sometimes react hostilely to plain bit
> > sets. But I'm sure that the current scheme is better than all
> > I tried. (Ditto for Brian Goetz and Paul Sandoz).
> > In fact, I think the current scheme is sorta nice in
> > an absolute sense.
>
>
> Could be. I haven't seen it. That said, I find that bit fields are usually
> not a good idea in the post-enum age.
>
> Josh
>
>
