Forwarding to core-libs. - Kurchi
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Latency in starting threads on Mac OS X Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:57:06 +0300 From: Dr Heinz M. Kabutz <he...@javaspecialists.eu> Organization: JavaSpecialists.eu To: macosx-port-...@openjdk.java.net Good day my fellow Mac OS X users! Yesterday, whilst teaching my Concurrency Specialist Course, I wanted to demonstrate to my class how slow it was starting threads and how much better it is to use a FixedThreadPool. The question that I wanted to answer was: How many microseconds does it take on average to start a simple thread and what is the maximum time it could take? We all know that it can take in the milliseconds range to do the following: Thread t = new Thread(); // even without it actually doing anything t.start(); This is one of the reasons why the fixed thread pool only starts the threads as we submit jobs to it, since the up-front cost might not be worth the wait. But how long do you think the *maximum* was that I had to wait for t.start() to return? 100ms? 200ms? Actually, the longest I had to wait turned out to be about 250 seconds. Yes. That is *seconds*, not *milliseconds*. Just to start a single thread. This is most certainly a bug in the OpenJDK on Mac OS X. We did not see this behaviour on Linux nor on Windows 7. The bug started in OpenJDK 1.7.0_06. Prior to that it hardly ever took longer than 30ms to start a single thread. java version "1.7.0_05" heinz$ java ThreadLeakMac2 time = 1, threads = 4 time = 2, threads = 346 time = 4, threads = 7378 time = 7, threads = 9614 time = 12, threads = 10027 time = 14, threads = 10063 time = 17, threads = 26965 time = 38, threads = 27013 time = 39, threads = 452053 java version "1.7.0_06" heinz$ java ThreadLeakMac2 time = 1, threads = 6 time = 2, threads = 256 time = 6, threads = 373 *snip* time = 111, threads = 42592 time = 200, threads = 49419 time = 333, threads = 58976 *snip* time = 3245, threads = 202336 time = 3706, threads = 203702 *snip* time = 5835, threads = 267872 time = 6455, threads = 269238 time = 9170, threads = 270603 In my code, I make sure that the thread has stopped before creating the next one by calling join(). public class ThreadLeakMac2 { public static void main(String[] args) throws InterruptedException { long threads = 0; long max = 0; while(true) { long time = System.currentTimeMillis(); Thread thread = new Thread(); thread.start(); // should finish almost immediately time = System.currentTimeMillis() - time; thread.join(); // short delay, hopefully threads++; if (time> max) { max = time; System.out.println("time = " + time + ", threads = " + threads); } } } } This would be another nice test case for Alexey's concurrency stress test harness. (I also posted this to the concurrency-interest list.) Regards Heinz -- Dr Heinz M. Kabutz (PhD CompSci) Author of "The Java(tm) Specialists' Newsletter" Sun Java Champion IEEE Certified Software Development Professional http://www.javaspecialists.eu Tel: +30 69 75 595 262 Skype: kabutz