Hi Mandy,

On 11/2/2015 2:53 PM, Mandy Chung wrote:
On Oct 20, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Roger Riggs <roger.ri...@oracle.com> wrote:

Updated Javadoc:
  http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~rriggs/cleaner-doc/
I’m happy with this API to provide an easy way to migrate away from finalizers. 
 Some thoughts:
1. For an existing finalizer (say cleanup function), it will be replaced with
      Cleaner.create().phantomCleanable(this, this::cleanup);
Not quite, It can't reference this; the cleanup method must not have any reference to the object being cleaned up because the Cleanable holds a strong reference to the cleanup state and would keep
it from being xxx unreachable.
The cleaning function must only refer to the state (and behavior) that does the cleaning.
It could be a static method  with all the state in the arguments.
Or a instance method on a object holding only the cleanup state.

It may be useful to provide a sharable Cleaner instance that doesn’t go away.
yes, for the use cases in java.base, there will be a common cleaner in the jdk.internal.misc package.

The primary use for this Cleaner API is to replace finalizers.  I wonder it 
worths having a convenient method easier to relate to finalizer (say 
Cleaner.finalizable?)
Not just finalizers; I would stay away from the term finalizer to avoid overloading the understanding.
Finalization is specific specification defined semantics.

2. Do you know any existing use of soft / weak references in the JDK can 
benefit from this automatic cleanup mechanism? The typical cache implementation 
using soft/weak references is to purge the entries when the cache is accessed 
and manages the reference queue without a background thread.
Peter Levart offered an example of a self cleaning Weak key'ed collection.
It would be nice to have a ConcurrentHashMap with Weak keys.


I’m in two minds that it sounds sensible for this Cleaner API to extend for 
soft/weak references whereas I am not certain of the use cases.   Anyone can 
share the known use cases that would be helpful.

Besides the cases already mentioned on the thread...  Anyone?


Updated Webrev:
   http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~rriggs/webrev-cleaner-8138696/

   57     final PhantomCleanable<?> phantomCleanableList;
   59     final WeakCleanable<?> weakCleanableList;
   61     final SoftCleanable<?> softCleanableList;

- is there any benefit of keeping separate list for each reference type?  Each 
cleaner has one single ReferenceRueue and it seems that keeping one single 
Cleanable list could achieve similar performance in most cases while the 
implementation might be simplified.
Since each type has to extend the corresponding Reference subtype; the code was easier to understand and maintain with separate queues. There were several iterations using different approaches suggested
during the earlier reviews.


  111         thread.setPriority(Thread.MAX_PRIORITY);

VM threads are near max priority.  The reference handler thread is MAX_PRORITY 
whereas the finalizer thread is MAX_PRIORITY-2.
I'll change it to be equal to the finalizer priority; MAX_PRIORITY - 2 for the default ThreadFactory
I think the cleaner thread should not be of MAX_PRIORITY and also perhaps the 
caller may need a way to get the thread associated with a Cleaner so that users 
can set the priority if needed?
The priority should be set by the ThreadFactory; if an application needs to control the thread
it can/should provide a custom ThreadFactory; that will keep the API clean.

The setting of the default thread priority should be in the default thread factory.

Thanks, Roger

ps.  Webrev: http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~rriggs/webrev-cleaner-8138696/


Mandy



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