Hi David,

On 10/30/2017 3:31 AM, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Andrej,

On 30/10/2017 5:02 PM, Andrej Golovnin wrote:
Hi David,

On 30. Oct 2017, at 01:40, David Holmes <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Roger,

On 30/10/2017 10:24 AM, Roger Riggs wrote:
Hi,
With the deprecation of Object.finalize its time to look at its uses too see if they can be removed or mitigated.

So the nice thing about finalize was that it followed a nice/clean/simple OO model where a subclass could override, add their own cleanup and then call super.finalize(). With finalize() deprecated, and the new mechanism being Cleaners, how do Cleaners support such usages?

Instead of ThreadPoolExecutor.finalize you can override ThreadPoolExecutor.terminated.

True. Though overriding shutdown() would be the semantic equivalent of overriding finalize(). :)

In the general case though finalize() might be invoking a final method.

Anyway I'm not sure we can actually do something to try to move away from use of finalize() in TPE. finalize() is only deprecated - it is still expected to work as it has always done. Existing subclasses that override finalize() must continue to work until some point where we say finalize() is not only deprecated but obsoleted (it no longer does anything). So until then is there actually any point in doing anything? Does having a Cleaner and a finalize() method make sense? Does it aid in the transition?
As you observe, the alternatives directly using PhantomRefs or the Cleanup do not provide as nice a model.  Unfortunately, that model has been recognized to have a number of issues [1].  Finalization is a poor substitute for explicit shutdown, it is unpredictable and unreliable,
and not guaranteed to be executed.

ThreadPoolExecutor has a responsibility to cleanup any native resources it has allocated (threads) and it should be free to use whatever mechanism is appropriate. Currently, the spec for finalize
does not give it that freedom.

The initiative is to identify and remediate existing uses of finalization in the JDK.
The primary concern is about subclasses that reply on the current spec.
If I'm using grepcode correctly[2], it does not show any subclasses of ThreadPoolExecutor that
override finalize; so it may be a non-issue.

Regards, Roger

[1] https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8165641

[2] http://grepcode.com/search/usages?type=method&id=repository.grepcode.com%24java%24root@jdk%24openjdk@8u40-b25@java%24util%24concurrent@ThreadPoolExecutor@finalize%28%29&k=d

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