Hi Kurt,

I created an enhancement request in the Jira and linked the core-libs emails in.
    https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8196003

Thanks for the frequency usage info.  Its hard to guess whether if micro APIs were
available whether they would have been used instead of millis.

Roger


On 1/23/2018 12:23 AM, Kurt Alfred Kluever wrote:
Thanks for the responses, Stephen + Roger,.

As noted, a line definitely has to be drawn somewhere. In case anyone is looking for some data, here are current relative usage stats inside of Google for the various APIs, grouped by functionality (creating/decomposing Instants/Durations):

  Instant.ofEpochMilli(long): 67%
  Instant.ofEpochSecond(long): 29%
*  Instants.ofEpochMicros(long): 4%
*

  Instant.toEpochMilli(): 83%
  Instant.getEpochSecond(): 10%
*  Instants.toEpochMicros(Instant): 7%*

  Duration.ofSeconds(long): 30%
Duration.ofDays(long): 24%
  Duration.ofMillis(long): 21%
Duration.ofMinutes(long): 18%
Duration.ofHours(long): 7%
  Duration.ofNanos(long): < 1%
*  Durations.ofMicros(long): < 1%*

  Duration.toMillis(): 73%
Duration.getSeconds(): 16%
  Duration.toMinutes(): 3%
  Duration.toNanos(): 3%
Duration.toDays(): 3%
*Durations.toMicros(Duration): 2%*
Duration.toHours(): 1%

So yea, it's definitely towards the bottom of the usage stats, but that also might be partially because of the discoverability issue (people are much more likely to find an instance method directly on the type than a static method on our Durations class). Anyway, I'm not claiming these numbers motivate any sort of change, but given a proposal to add microsecond support directly to the APIs, I think I'd be in favor :-) Or perhaps Google is unique in it's usage of microsecond precision (many of our storage systems have timestamps using microsecond precision).

PS - and thanks for the ".NET ticks" reference, I hadn't heard of that before. And maybe here's a new one for you that just popped up in the news --- a Flick <https://github.com/OculusVR/Flicks> (1/705600000 of a second).

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Stephen Colebourne <scolebou...@joda.org <mailto:scolebou...@joda.org>> wrote:

    On 22 January 2018 at 02:58, Kurt Alfred Kluever <k...@google.com
    <mailto:k...@google.com>> wrote:
    > I'm curious how these sets of units were chosen or decided upon? I
    > understand that the line must be drawn somewhere (or else
    someone may come
    > along asking for centisecond support), but I'm curious as to the
    rational.

    Nanos have to be supported as they are the smallest available.
    Millis are supported as they are the historic form.

    Micros is only one of the other possible ones - .NET ticks might be
    another. A line has to be drawn somewhere...

    Stephen




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kak

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