On 4/22/20 1:42 PM, Joe Darcy wrote:
On 4/22/2020 6:12 AM, Alan Bateman wrote:
On 22/04/2020 13:50, Andrew Haley wrote:
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1. Should close() always be idempotent, where practical? I would have
    thought so, but perhaps there are downsides.

2. Should classes which implement close() with the standard meaning be
    AutoCloseable?

I'm sure Joe Darcy can say more on this but I remember there was a lot of effort put into this topic when AutoCloseable was added in Java 7 (and Project Coin). Closeable close is idempotent but AutoCloseable close could not require it. AutoCloseable's API docs recommend it of course. There was effort in Java 7 and beyond to retrofit existing classes that defined a close method to be Closeable or AutoCloseable. There are only a handful of exported APIs remaining that have a close method that don't extend or implement AutoCloseable. I don't know the history of the XML stream interface to know why they close to define them not to close the underlying stream but I doubt these could be changed now.

Yes, the JSR 334 EG had some discussions about both "SilentCloseable" (no exceptions) and "IdempotentCloseable" as possible library additions back in the JDK 7 time frame. These were not judged to have sufficient marginal utility over Closeable and AutoCloseable to include in the platform.

It was impractical to require idempotent close methods in call cases, but they are recommended. Generally, a type with a void close method should implement AutoClosable. Most of the candidate types in the JDK were updated for JDK 7; a few stragglers were updated since then, but there are a few remaining cases that could be updated as discussed earlier in this thread.

Regarding idempotentcy, I remember some of those discussions. To the extent possible, JDK implementations all have idempotent close() methods. However, some classes that seemed useful to be AutoCloseable were extensible outside the JDK, and we couldn't guarantee the idempotency of those close() implementations. It seemed reasonable to make the JDK classes AutoCloseable but for AC not to require idempotency.

To answer Andrew's second question, I think whether something ought to implement AC this depends on the "standard meaning" of close(), but the answer is likely yes. I think the "standard meaning" includes some ideas such as the possibility of the object referencing some resource external to the JVM, not under (direct) control of the garbage collector, for which it would be considered a resource leak for close() not to be called, and for which prompt release of that resource is considered important.

There's another small wrinkle with AutoCloseable which is that its definition changed somewhat in Java 8. Prior to Java 8 there was a sense that any AC instance ought to be used within a try-with-resources statement, and not doing so merited a warning. In Java 8 this was relaxed somewhat, in that T-W-R should be used only for AC instances that are known to contain external resources. The driver here was Stream, which implements AC. A Stream might represent a resource -- see Files.lines() for example -- in which case T-W-R should be used. However, many streams represent only in-memory values, so in those cases T-W-R is superfluous.

Finally, several years back there was a bit of discussion on core-libs-dev on the issue of whether the XML streams should implement AutoCloseable; see

http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/core-libs-dev/2013-May/017343.html

At the time the main issue seemed to be a complication with changing the specifications, because these APIs were also under the control of an independent (non Java SE platform) JSR. In fact that might have been the original reason for these APIs not to have been retrofitted in Java 7. Given the passage of time, perhaps this is no longer an issue.

s'marks

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