On 2021-10-01 16:53, Aleksey Shipilev wrote:
On 10/1/21 4:46 PM, Brett Okken wrote:
The current pure Java implementation does two things: it provides a fallback for pure-interpreter JVMs and it provides the reader with a simple implementation.
I'm not at all sure we'd want a complex implementation.

I thought this might be the case.

Having said that, if I were looking at a faster pure Java version of
this logic, I'd look at MethodHandles.byteArrayViewVarHandle().

I considered that, but had 2 concerns:
1. creating potential dependency/initialization order issues
2. creating/managing a constant VarHandle that would never be used
with normal compiler behavior

Also, interpreter-only VMs are likely to be pessimized by Var/MethodHandles, as they would not be able to fold a lot of code (e.g. checks) on the hotpaths. I have seen this after SHA-2 was rewritten to use byteViews (that one was done for simplicity, rather than directly for performance, I think).

Guilty as charged! I did experiment with some slightly wonky ways to
soften the blow to interpreter performance[1], but ultimately opted to
maximize simplicity.


Optimizing this does not seem worth it, in my opinion. The only reason to do this would be showing that it improves the interpreter performance so much it improves startup until compilers are coming up with the optimized code.


I agree with this assessment.

Thanks!
/Claes

[1] https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/1855/commits/4b4fb2dd078eb71bd41ad3cf61b87a93575171a0

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