Brian, Alan, Markus, Chen – thank you for your feedback on this issue!  At 
this point we seem to agree that 1) there is merit to this idea, 2) nobody 
loves a new public class (including me), and 3) this is not a subclass of 
ByteArrayOutputStream.  Are we ready to move this to CSR and continue the API 
discussion there?
  Thank you very much!  😊
     John

From: Engebretson, John
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2025 7:36 AM
To: 'Brian Burkhalter' <brian.burkhal...@oracle.com>; core-libs-dev@openjdk.org
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] JDK-8352891 Performance improvements to 
ByteArrayOutputStream

  Thank you Brian, I’m sorry I missed this point!  The hint in this case is the 
parameter on the overloaded constructor; if set high enough, the 
initially-allocated buffer will guarantee exactly one array allocation with no 
growth.  This is identical to the ByteArrayOutputStream behavior described on 
[1].
  However, both issues focus on the far more common case of not knowing the 
final payload size, or perhaps making a bad guess; [1] attempts to modify the 
scale while [2] rewrites the data structure for greater gain.
     John

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I did not notice that Alan’s comment below, about adding a hint as to the 
maximum expected size, has been specifically addressed anywhere in this 
discussion. It might not be all that pertinent to the main thread of 
discussion, however, but it would certainly be useful for the issue [1], which 
I linked to [2].

Brian

[1] https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8329287
[2] https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8353729

On Apr 2, 2025, at 3:52 AM, Alan Bateman 
<alan.bate...@oracle.com<mailto:alan.bate...@oracle.com>> wrote:

[…] and whether having a parameter to specify the initial size or some hint of 
the max size would help the discussion.

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