Furthermore, if for some reason it is required to dispose of any objects after 
others are GC'd, weak references and a weak reference queue will perform 
significantly better in throughput and latency - orders of magnitude better - 
than finalizers.

On 6/21/09 9:32 AM, "brian.lev...@nokia.com" <brian.lev...@nokia.com> wrote:

IMHO, you should never rely on finalizers to release scarce resources since you 
don't know when the finalizer will get called, if ever.

-brian



-----Original Message-----
From: ext jason hadoop [mailto:jason.had...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:19 AM
To: core-user@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: Re: "Too many open files" error, which gets resolved after some time

HDFS/DFS client uses quite a few file descriptors for each open file.

Many application developers (but not the hadoop core) rely on the JVM
finalizer methods to close open files.

This combination, expecially when many HDFS files are open can result in
very large demands for file descriptors for Hadoop clients.
We as a general rule never run a cluster with nofile less that 64k, and for
larger clusters with demanding applications have had it set 10x higher. I
also believe there was a set of JVM versions that leaked file descriptors
used for NIO in the HDFS core. I do not recall the exact details.

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Stas Oskin <stas.os...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> After tracing some more with the lsof utility, and I managed to stop the
> growth on the DataNode process, but still have issues with my DFS client.
>
> It seems that my DFS client opens hundreds of pipes and eventpolls. Here is
> a small part of the lsof output:
>
> java    10508 root  387w  FIFO                0,6           6142565 pipe
> java    10508 root  388r  FIFO                0,6           6142565 pipe
> java    10508 root  389u  0000               0,10        0  6142566
> eventpoll
> java    10508 root  390u  FIFO                0,6           6135311 pipe
> java    10508 root  391r  FIFO                0,6           6135311 pipe
> java    10508 root  392u  0000               0,10        0  6135312
> eventpoll
> java    10508 root  393r  FIFO                0,6           6148234 pipe
> java    10508 root  394w  FIFO                0,6           6142570 pipe
> java    10508 root  395r  FIFO                0,6           6135857 pipe
> java    10508 root  396r  FIFO                0,6           6142570 pipe
> java    10508 root  397r  0000               0,10        0  6142571
> eventpoll
> java    10508 root  398u  FIFO                0,6           6135319 pipe
> java    10508 root  399w  FIFO                0,6           6135319 pipe
>
> I'm using FSDataInputStream and FSDataOutputStream, so this might be
> related
> to pipes?
>
> So, my questions are:
>
> 1) What happens these pipes/epolls to appear?
>
> 2) More important, how I can prevent their accumation and growth?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> 2009/6/21 Stas Oskin <stas.os...@gmail.com>
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > I have HDFS client and HDFS datanode running on same machine.
> >
> > When I'm trying to access a dozen of files at once from the client,
> several
> > times in a row, I'm starting to receive the following errors on client,
> and
> > HDFS browse function.
> >
> > HDFS Client: "Could not get block locations. Aborting..."
> > HDFS browse: "Too many open files"
> >
> > I can increase the maximum number of files that can opened, as I have it
> > set to the default 1024, but would like to first solve the problem, as
> > larger value just means it would run out of files again later on.
> >
> > So my questions are:
> >
> > 1) Does the HDFS datanode keeps any files opened, even after the HDFS
> > client have already closed them?
> >
> > 2) Is it possible to find out, who keeps the opened files - datanode or
> > client (so I could pin-point the source of the problem).
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
>



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