On 30 March 2018 at 20:27, INADA Naoki <songofaca...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Nowadays, joining to IRC is a hurdle for new contributors. > There are some alternative, modern web applications: > > * Slack -- Most used for tech communities. > * Discord -- Similar to slack. It is focusing game, but support OSS too. [1] > * Gitter -- Most integrated with Github. typing, mypy, pip use it already.
While pip does have a room on Gitter, I'm not sure how active it actually is. Another option well worth considering here is Zulip: https://zulipchat.com/for/open-source/ While the original startup got acquihired by Dropbox back in 2014, a new supporting startup was formed in mid-2016 (https://zulipchat.com/team/) after some successful community engagement efforts at the PyCon US sprints (https://zulipchat.com/history/) One challenge to be overcome is that these rooms are really only useful to newcomers if they can find existing contributors there, and for existing contributors, the newer services don't tend to offer any especially compelling advantages over IRC, which makes it hard to successfully convince folks to change how they make themselves available for real time discussions. IRC gateways tend not be an especially compelling feature from a commercial perspective (e.g. Slack are shutting their IRC bridge down [1]), but Zulip do offer scripts that support bidirectional mirroring of messages, and are interested in improving that capability: https://github.com/zulip/python-zulip-api/issues/106 Independently of the idea of a more modern real-time chat service, I'll note that IRC web gateways do provide some potential for near term mitigation, and we do link to https://webchat.freenode.net/ from https://devguide.python.org/communication/#irc. However, the link is pretty terse, and the login form presents an IRC-centric view of the world which is quite different from what most folks will have come to expect from a web service. The sign-up process for IRCCloud might be a bit more familiar to folks, and offers the advantage that we could link directly to the python-dev channel with an ordinary HTTPS URL: https://www.irccloud.com/irc/freenode/channel/python-dev (I haven't checked the full sign-up flow with the direct link, so that may still be a bit convoluted, but once you do have an account, the link takes you directly to the channel after you log in). Cheers, Nick. [1] https://pythondev.slack.com/account/gateways -- Nick Coghlan | ncogh...@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia _______________________________________________ core-workflow mailing list -- core-workflow@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to core-workflow-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mm3/mailman3/lists/core-workflow.python.org/ This list is governed by the PSF Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct
