On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:56 AM, ron minnich <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Peter Stuge <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I would like to request a better patch management system than this > > mailing list. The fact the above "ping" is now a part of our > > development process is a very strong indication that things are not > > functioning very well. > > it's a hard problem. I'm on several projects. They are all non-ideal > in some way. Linux sucks in patches at the rate of 30,000 a year or > so; that's fine performance but some feel (me included) that the > kernel is "de-cohering": it no longer has the small tight feel and > coherence of vision that it might have once had. Plan 9 still has the > same tight feel and coherence but at a cost: important patches seem to > linger on the vine for (i am not kidding here) years . > > Coreboot is trickier than a kernel, as trivial errors can lead to > systems that can not be recovered. I especially avoid acking flashrom > patches because I can't test most of them. Others I know don't like to > NAK, but they're not comfortable with an ACK either; they don't like > the code but they don't want to hold up progress. > > All in all, I think the process works. Yes, it is not ideal. Yes, it > could be better, but so could everything. > > ron > > -- > coreboot mailing list: [email protected] > http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot > Indeed, changing the whole process might not be worth the effort considering the trade-offs. There are some tools that can make the current process a lot less painful, however, specifically web-based code review dashboards<http://ostatic.com/blog/open-source-code-review-tools>. Review Board <http://www.review-board.org/> from the folks at VMWare looks really good, and Rietveld <http://code.google.com/p/rietveld/>, which is a relatively new open-source fork of Google's Mondrian<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMql3Di4Kgc#t=25m20s>code review tool, is quite helpful as well though it seems behind RB at the moment. -- David Hendricks (dhendrix) Systems Software Engineer, Google Inc.
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