On Wednesday 24 June 2009 12:50:01 Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > Hi, > > AFAICS the time has come to give flashrom its own mailing list (maybe > [email protected]) and IRC channel (irc.freenode.net/#flashrom). > > I do realize this has been brought up in the past, but while I was > sceptical back then, I realized that the times have changed in the last > few months. > The release of flashrom 0.9.0 has increased both visiblity and user > base, resulting in a sizable portion of list and chat traffic to be > related to flashrom. > > Some of us are only interested in coreboot, while others are only > interested in flashrom. Since filtering mails according to subject can > introduce lots of errors, having two separate lists would make watching > one one of flashrom/coreboot easier. Good idea, I also welcome the split.
> List traffic over the last few years: > 2007: 29 mails/day > 2008: 41 mails/day > 2009: 36 mails/day > > Although the list traffic has not yet reached linux-kernel levels, it is > already too much to read in full. I hope splitting the lists will allow > people to concentrate on their personal area of interest and also > encourage more reviews. After all, if you have to read less mails, you > can respond to more of them. > > One issue to solve is how we want to handle flashrom success/failure > reports sent to [email protected]. Right now they end up on an > unmoderated private list. After the change, they'd get a message that > the list is moderated. This might discourage users, so we have to think > of a nice moderation message, possibly mentioning that emergency help > for broken flash is available on IRC. I also think, like Uwe, that it would be a good idea to make that messages public. Maybe a different tag (e.g. "[Flashrom-Chips]") for that mails directly on the flashrom list? > The suggested way forward is outlined below: > 1. Register #flashrom on irc.freenode.net (done) > 2. Invite parties interested in flashrom to join #flashrom besides > #coreboot. > 3. Pre-Announce the mailing list split with the following text: > "[email protected] will be split in two lists. [email protected] > is where flashrom development and usage will be discussed. > [email protected] will carry all traffic not related to flashrom. > [email protected] list members will be subscribed automatically to > [email protected]. If you are only interested in either coreboot or > flashrom, feel free to unsubscribe from either list once the split is > done." 4. Wait a week for protests etc. > 5. Create a new mailing list [email protected] with the same > subscribers as [email protected]. Indeed good to move all existing users to the list. > 6. Announce the mailing list split with the following text: > "[email protected] has been split in two lists. > [email protected] is where flashrom development and usage are > discussed from now own. [email protected] carries all traffic not > related to flashrom. [email protected] list members have been > subscribed automatically to [email protected]. If you are only > interested in either coreboot or flashrom, feel free to unsubscribe from > either list." > > Thoughts? Flames? Great - that's it. ;) > > Regards, > Carl-Daniel Regards, Harald
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