> Am 2014-08-28 23:38, schrieb Todd Weaver: >> Comparing the blob-free versions from Intel (which are apparently >> signed, so according to http://www.coreboot.org/Binary_situation are >> at a 9000+ panic level), would it be possible to have blob-free >> (probably through RE) that would work (meaning does not require signed >> binaries) on an AMD board? > Newer chipsets (as in yet to be released) come with signed parts, but it > seems the scope of the signature is configurable somehow by AMD. There > were some mails about that a couple of days ago ("AMD PSP”).
Thank you I will research that. >> We will do what we can here. The issue is even with immense leverage, >> having the source released (from AMI, or AMD, (or Intel for that >> matter)) would undermine tremendous profit that these companies make >> by keeping this proprietary. > AMD claims that they stopped working on open sourcing their > initialization code because it's lots of work (ie. money) with limited > return on investment. How much work that is isn't here or there (most of > that is because their internal development process is less than optimal > and, like most processes in most organizations, hard to change). > But it means that someone could make it worth their while given the > right kind of project. Very helpful, thank you! > What they don't provide sources for is CPU microcode updates (no one > does since it's of limited value without the microcode development > toolchain and the microcode itself that is getting updated) and various > smaller firmware (USB3 which is a licensed core, IMC, an embedded > controller, and the SMU). > For IMC and SMU there's some reverse engineering effort, partially > documented in the wiki, so by asking the right questions to the right > people in this community, plus some development, it might be possible to > get them opened up even without AMD's help. This is extremely helpful in making the case against Intel (which was better received than I had thought) we are at least working with the board manufacturer about AMD instead of Intel… Here’s hoping. Thank you all! Todd. -- coreboot mailing list: [email protected] http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

