On 01/07/2017 09:37 PM, Timothy Pearson wrote:

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On 01/07/2017 07:26 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
I would care to disagree with.
"The Libreboot D16 Server is the only high-end, business-grade, secure
owner-controlled server that safeguards your privacy, security and
freedom."

*x86-64* should be added in, as you can buy a reasonably *for what you
get* priced POWER8 server that has open source firmware such as the TYAN
Palmetto or one from IBM's POWER line both of which have way more juice.
This is true only within limits.  Purchasing a Palmetto, which is a
severely underpowered OpenPOWER system with only one Centaur, costs over
$3k USD.  Tyan's systems do not come with open source firmware, and the
next IBM system up to offer (but not ship with) open firmware is the
S822LC, which starts at nearly $7k USD.

Raptor Engineering would be willing to free up the Tyan systems under
contract, but as we do not use the Tyan systems internally we would not
do this work as part of our normal operations.

Although this is the best and last free x86-64 motherboard so IMO
everyone should get one while they still can.

Heres to hoping POWER-ME is never invented.
+1.  The best way to ensure it isn't invented is to contact IBM and
state the reasons you are considering an OpenPOWER system (open
firmware, lack of vendor signatures, etc.).

- -- Timothy Pearson
Raptor Engineering
+1 (415) 727-8645 (direct line)
+1 (512) 690-0200 (switchboard)
https://www.raptorengineering.com
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Ah thanks for the info, I had thought all IBM POWER8 systems had open firmware :( So to confirm, the more reasonably priced S812LC for 4.8K doesn't have it? What a shame.

Yeah I proselytized by asking them a few questions on the web-form but they never replied.
I asked them:
If you can use them as workstations by slotting in a graphics card and attaching it to a VM like with x86 IOMMU GFX. Which systems have open blob free firmware and how easy it is to do a user-compile/flash. What is the difference between the shipping firmware and the "open" firmware.

Man things are really going to hell these days, nothing we buy is really ours - even the box of trash bags in my kitchen has an EULA printed on the bottom.

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