On 03/03/2017 02:25 PM, Leah Rowe wrote:
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Hi all,
https://libreboot.org/amd-libre/
We call on coreboot to join us in our campaign to convince AMD to
start cooperating with the libre hardware community again. Are there
people in coreboot already doing this?
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Definitely - No matter what anyone thinks about the probability of this
happening it is still very important that we show them how much we care.
Of course they also must release the signing keys as well afaik, or we
would be stuck at a tivo style not really open source impasse.
Nobody has mentioned this fact in that thread.
I can't understand as to why intel/amd after decades and decades of
computing suddenly add a black box supervisor processor to every product
line (not just the business models) that can't be removed or modified.
All we are asking for is a way to shut it off but for some reason they
believe that is unreasonable.
One of the side issues is also the lack of open source GPU firmware and
of course the signing keys for that as well.
It is incredibly depressing that every commodity grade computer is
moving to the locked down model, we can only hope that POWER will not
follow suit.
On 03/03/2017 06:26 PM, ron minnich wrote:
So, first, I admire and agree with your enthusiasm for making this happen.
I hope it works.
That said, having gotten vendors to break open this kind of information,
with a number of vendors a number of times, and having both failed and
succeeded, my experience is that a broadcast call like this is probably the
least effective approach.
So I'd rather not have the "coreboot community" join in this sort of call,
for the simple reason that I would rather see us place our efforts on
something that's likely to be effective. That involves individual members
of our community spending lots of time locating the right people in the
right organizations, getting them into a single room, talking to them,
drafting documents, and getting them to agree to some sort of joint
communique. It's time consuming and boring but it's how the jobs gets done.
But, that work naturally occurs behind closed doors, not via web pages.
We could target putting a meeting with AMD together at the Denver meeting
or the one in the fall.
ron
Yeah I agree, that would be what could really make something happen.
It is like the difference between getting a job interview with an HR
lackey and an actual technical person.
Intel would never be willing to do this, but AMD? slightly possible.
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