On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 05:11:39PM +0300, Kyösti Mälkki wrote:
> Quoting website frontpage; "As an Open Source project it (coreboot)
> provides auditability and maximum control over technology. "
> 
> FOSS to blob ratio in coreboot images, when only accounting for x86
> code, is something like 1:8 with recent Intel hardware and FSP.
coreboot itself is still open source. FSP is a mixed bag in that
it enabled going on with contemporary hardware but also seemed to
have killed all motivation to reverse engineer chipset bringup - or
maybe that's due to the omnipresent ME on the same devices that made
CPU-side reverse engineering seem useless because the ME firmware is
still there?

As for "maximum control", it's still a local maximum you can achieve
on that type of devices (unless people start reverse engineering, or
silicon vendors stop being to stuck up on keeping "write magic value
to magic register" code secret, in which case we could raise the bar).

I wish we could reach the global maximum as well, but that's not in
our hands.

And here we end up with the age old disagreement in whether we should
be open to compromise and keep the conversation going (hopefully in
the right direction, although sometimes that's hard) or take our toys
and leave.


Patrick
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