# 17 November 2021 - coreboot Leadership
Attendees: Arthur Heymans, Christian Walter, David Hendricks, Felix
Held, Jason Glenesk, Jay Talbott, Julius Werner, Martin Roth, Patrick
Georgi, Piotr Król, Ron Minnich, Tim Crawford, Werner Zeh
## Key Decisions:
* Add note to meeting minutes: Decisions are made based on current
information. Bring it up if there needs to be more discussion.
* Decisions will be made in the leadership meeting, but unless there's
a reason not to, can be revisited if needed.
## Ongoing items:
* New videoconferencing system
* Jitsi? Limits: 100 ppl is free limit
* Tested https://meet.jit.si/
* http://meet.coreboot.org now exists, too.
* Jitsi performed very well compared to all the other open source
solutions that we’ve used.
* Firefox worked well compared to a couple of years ago.
* In the vpub, we ran into a jitsi issue where some people
couldn’t hear each other.
* Biggest Downside: no phone bridges. If we had one or several SIP
servers people can call into, we could hook it up (add-on feature on
meet.jit.si but available OOTB for custom installs like
meet.coreboot.org)
* Google meet?
* Set up a coreboot account?
* This seems problematic, but can be worked. It’s free for
non-profits, but the SFC is the non-profit, not coreboot.
* Maybe we could OSFF’s google meet account. This currently has
the same issue as using Google's internal meet where people not
directly invited cannot join, but OSFF is looking at how to disable
this.
* Biggest downside to Google meet is that it is not open source.
* Documentation updates:
* Martin is working to find freelance techwriters who can help for a
price that the coreboot project can afford.
## Agenda/Minutes:
* [Niko] Maybe to avoid wasting time with premature decisions, we
should make up some guidelines? For instance, first discuss something
on the mailing list, then in the leadership meeting? This way people
could at least get a little information before they make decisions.
* Decisions are often not urgent, so if more information comes, we
can reevaluate.
* **Result: Add note to meeting minutes: Decisions are made based
on current information. Bring it up if there needs to be more
discussion.**
* It might be nice to push the (then current) agenda ahead of time,
e.g. a day early, so people know what will be discussed.
* What’s the canonical place to make decisions, mailing list or
leadership meeting?
* The meeting has the downside that people have to be there at a
specific time (even if that’s 2am in Taipei)
* People with a topic to discuss that are not able to make it to
the meeting should try to find a delegate to represent them.
* The mailing list has the issue that we regularly have issues
with people misinterpreting tone and topics derailing.
* **Result: Decisions will be made in the leadership meeting, but
unless there's a reason not to, can be revisited if needed.**
* **["Private" changes on Gerrit are now disabled and
removed](https://mail.coreboot.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/thread/N34ZP4GQQYVITKSJPZHOIZFLCU5OOF32/)**
- how do we want to handle this? Some people said they preferred it
just because it kept people from reviewing the code, even though it
wasn’t necessarily completely private.
* Look at changing the wording in the UI? This should not be
presented as actually being “Private”.
* Patrick will reach out to Gerrit team, probably send a patch
* Mark as “Unlisted”
* Add to the documentation saying that it can be fetched.
* Nobody voiced a strong preference to keep the feature disabled.
* The 4.15 release is done. Do we want a branch? Should we just
create a branch for every release?
* We don't currently need a branch.
* If significant things are removed, then we probably want to create a branch.
* No EFI working group meeting next week, it will resume again on
Tuesday, Dec 7.
* Moved EFI working group minutes to [a separate
document](https://docs.google.com/document/d/13RjAddskjjCGhzIwxDTE1-w6HOIwhyoZsZUIOcauaxo/edit)
* [Jay]: Build server donation from ITRenew still coming some day....
* Jay asked to be a pest to get ITRenew to work on it, so he’ll be just that.
* Awesome!
* Werner: Siemens is hiring for coreboot development:
[https://jobs.siemens.com/jobs/279831?lang=en-us](https://jobs.siemens.com/jobs/279831?lang=en-us)
* Number of commits by association for the 4.15 release. **Note that
number of commits is a terrible way to judge anything important about
the project, so please don’t rely on this as a significant
datapoint**, this is just presented as something interesting to see.
The “Unknown” category is everyone with fewer than 10 commits in
this release cycle.
[Commits in 4.15 release by
company/association](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q1vDrcGGchdzlnR6AWkbYC5gInynIaB_/view?usp=sharing)
Decisions shown here are not necessarily final, and are based on the
current information available. If there are questions or comments
about decisions made, or additional information to present, please put
it on the leadership meeting agenda and show up if possible to discuss
it.
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