Thank you Matt, Stefan for your answers,


Yes, I'm quite new to coreboot (I'm only aware of its existence since last 
year).

I have a lot of catching up to do, hence the historical digging :).



Your answers make a lot of sense.

I wasn't aware that PureBoot was a Heads distribution, but from what I've read 
on their "Librem key" gitlab, this too makes sense (I've only just scratched 
the surface there as well, so I'm a long way of understanding it all).



I'll keep on reading then!



Regards,

Alexandre

------- Original Message -------
On Sunday, June 11th, 2023 at 21:11, Matt DeVillier <matt.devill...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


> As the former lead coreboot developer for Purism, I would TLDR as such:
> The 2015 blog post you linked was the viewpoint of one individual, and 
> referred to Purism's initial crowdsource-funded laptop, which shipped with a 
> Nvidia GPU and proprietary firmware. Since then, every Purism device shipped 
> has coreboot firmware available (though the first two did not have it at 
> release). Purism has also heavily invested in their downstream version of 
> HEADS, called PureBoot, which leverages a hardware key to enable tamper 
> detection of the device firmware and /boot partition, as well as open-source 
> EC firmware for their current model laptop.
> 

> -Matt / MrChromebox
> 

> 

> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 1:43 PM Alexandre Janvrin via coreboot 
> <coreboot@coreboot.org> wrote:
> 

> > Greetings,
> > 

> > I have been shopping around for a laptop during the past few weeks, aiming 
> > for a mix of performance and privacy.
> > During my search, I came across a blog post by mrnuke:
> > - 
> > https://web.archive.org/web/20150223201313/https://blogs.coreboot.org/blog/2015/02/23/the-truth-about-purism-why-librem-is-not-the-same-as-libre/
> > 

> > (the post was referenced in a Qube OS discussion related to Anti Evil Maid: 
> > https://groups.google.com/g/qubes-users/c/sEmZfOZqYXM/m/j5rHeex1BAAJ)
> > 

> > 

> > I've noticed that this post has disappeared from Coreboot's blog, and that 
> > Coreboot now advertises Purism quite differently.
> > From https://www.coreboot.org/users.html:
> > "Purism manufactures security focused laptops designed chip by chip to work 
> > with free/libre and open source software. Purism laptops are the only 
> > independently-made, brand new, high-performance laptops on the market 
> > specifically meant to pair recent technologies with coreboot and a 
> > neutralized Intel Management Engine."
> > 

> > I also came across Purism's public answer: 
> > https://puri.sm/posts/about-purism-and-librems-and-cake/
> > 

> > I guess the change in Coreboot's stance can be explained in a few manners:
> > - Purism genuinely improved since 2015 and is now delivering on their 
> > promises,
> > - mrnuke's opinion never reflected Coreboot's opinions,
> > - Purism extended a "helping" hand to Coreboot, in order to align both 
> > parties' economical objectives,
> > 

> > From an external viewpoint, I'd say that Purism has improved on their 
> > delivery, and their narrative seems to be grounded in reality rather than 
> > smoke and mirrors.
> > (Even though they currently admit to still having some binary blobs here 
> > and there)
> > 

> > Can you please provide more context, and indulge in the curiosity of a 
> > random user ?
> > 

> > (Disclaimer: I do not intend to buy a Purism laptop, not because I think 
> > they are bad, but because I'll have a more "Do It Yourself" approach)
> > 

> > Best regards,
> > Alexandre (a security/privacy enthusiast)
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