AFAIK the project name has been all lowercase from the start, and I don't see a compelling reason here to change it. To my eyes, it looks strange/wrong when started with a capital C.
Phoronix et all can continue being wrong =D On Thu, Jul 4, 2024, 12:53 PM Arthur Heymans <art...@aheymans.xyz> wrote: > Hi > > Thanks for the reply. > > Are you proposing to give up trying to defend the spelling of the >> project's name because too many people write it wrong and educating >> them is too much effort? If so, I think this is a self-defeating >> attitude and I completely disagree with it. > > > Language is not a set in stone thing. There are default grammatical rules > on how to write things and sometimes it is worth it to override the rules > as I explained. > It's basically a trade-off. > There is no right and wrong here, except maybe from a trademark > perspective, which most people are unaware of. > Later I make the case that even from a trademark perspective I don't think > it matters. > I'm making the case that enforcing to write "coreboot" lowercase has more > downsides than upsides, which is why I propose to allow "Coreboot" at the > start of a sentence. > Personally I think educating people about a trademark thing is superfluous > work. > Also in my personal communication it's a conundrum. > For instance if I write a blog post I don't want to look like I'm making > silly grammatical mistakes to those that haven't looked into the trademark > registry (which almost no one does). > At the same time I don't want to explain the trademark either as I think > it blunts communicative efficiency. > > Or is it that the trademark only covers the all-lowercase "coreboot" >> spelling, so one can use a name like "CoReboot" (e.g. for something >> unrelated) without infringing the "coreboot" trademark? In that case, >> making the trademark case-insensitive makes sense. >> > > So currently the only reason lowercase coreboot is enforced is because > that's how the trademark was obtained. > I'm using the argument that trademark interpretation is typically broad > and allows for using an uppercase letter at the start of a sentence since > that's what grammatical rules want. > So I think "Coreboot" is very much covered by the "coreboot" trademark. > > Arthur Heymans > > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 7:19 PM Angel Pons <th3fan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 3:48 PM Arthur Heymans <art...@aheymans.xyz> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi >> > >> > The coreboot trademark is registered as lowercase. >> > We enforce this in for instance commits, even when normal grammar would >> dictate uppercase at the start of a sentence. >> > >> > This makes sense for very well known brands, companies and products >> like "eBay", "iPhone", "AMD". They are all very well known trademarks and >> they have some uppercase letter in them in atypical places. For these words >> grammar exceptions seems reasonable. >> > >> > Coreboot is a reasonably well known as a project, but little people >> know about the specificity of the trademark. This often causes confusion on >> people either reading "coreboot" at the start of a sense, where it looks >> grammatically wrong, making it even look unprofessional in the eyes of >> some. This is because there is no other uppercase letter inside coreboot >> that would make it a typical exception to regular grammar rules. >> > >> > People getting into the project making the mistake at the start of a >> sentence, might get the wrong impression of too many idiosyncrasies. On top >> of that it takes a non zero amount of effort on people in the project to >> educate others on this trademark thing. >> > >> > Also trademark are typically a bit more broad than exactly how they are >> registered. I cannot start a company called iNTel or aMD that makes chips. >> I cannot put a product on the market called "IPHoNE". I think the same >> applies to "coreboot". >> > >> > So my question is: can we relax the trademark in lowercase enforcement? >> I would suggest to simply allow both ways. >> >> I am not sure if I understood you correctly. >> >> Are you proposing to give up trying to defend the spelling of the >> project's name because too many people write it wrong and educating >> them is too much effort? If so, I think this is a self-defeating >> attitude and I completely disagree with it. >> >> Or is it that the trademark only covers the all-lowercase "coreboot" >> spelling, so one can use a name like "CoReboot" (e.g. for something >> unrelated) without infringing the "coreboot" trademark? In that case, >> making the trademark case-insensitive makes sense. >> >> Or is it something else? Then... *confused noises* >> >> > Arthur Heymans >> > _______________________________________________ >> > coreboot mailing list -- coreboot@coreboot.org >> > To unsubscribe send an email to coreboot-le...@coreboot.org >> >> Best regards, >> Angel >> > _______________________________________________ > coreboot mailing list -- coreboot@coreboot.org > To unsubscribe send an email to coreboot-le...@coreboot.org >
_______________________________________________ coreboot mailing list -- coreboot@coreboot.org To unsubscribe send an email to coreboot-le...@coreboot.org
