Hi Sheng, On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 11:23:31AM +0200, Sheng Lean Tan wrote: > Hi Sergii, > Please be careful here and use your words wisely. It is always the
If the leadership provides such wishy-washy explanations for their highly dubious decisions, I will provide my replies. > easiest path to ‘stir up’ emotions and make it “us vs them”, this > would end badly for everyone and eventually rip apart all the trust we > have built together for so long. Coreboot project survives and thrives > based on common respect and resolutions in good faith. I am sure this > is not an easy decision for the leadership, there was some > misunderstanding yes, and people have voiced out their concerns > accordingly. I believe everyone including Nico (I have also talked to > Nico and a few people involved) would want the best outcome for > coreboot and resolve this in a goodwill. I would suggest to let it > cool down and give some space to all parties so they could resolve > this situation properly without many heated and unnecessary arguments > arose. > Peace. > Sheng > > > On 4. Oct 2024, at 10:54, Sergii Dmytruk <sergii.dmyt...@3mdeb.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 06:09:19AM +0000, David Hendricks via coreboot wrote: > > * This particular issue was not brought to the attention of coreboot > > leadership by anybody at Google or Intel. Someone in coreboot's > > small business ecosystem asked us to look into CB:84356 > > (https://review.coreboot.org/c/coreboot/+/84356), which later > > spawned other patches. The subtext is that upstream development is > > very difficult and spending days squabbling over a tiny part of a > > spec that we don't control (FSP in this case, but the same is true > > of SBI, TFA, UEFI, etc) is counterproductive. > > Looks like you jumped at the opportunity to limit Nico's involvement in > the project. > > > * We acknowledge that Nico has a certain communication style, and > > like others in this thread we've each been on the receiving end of > > it and have rationalized brushing it off for one reason or another. > > No, I did not say that for sure. Please don't misrepresent what people > have wrote to make your point of view look supported. > > > However, this does not work in aggregate within a community or > > organization where many people can take it many different ways, > > especially given that we're a global organization with people of > > varying levels of language proficiency. > > That is a terrible excuse for a bad decision. Those who have issues > with understanding a language are the ones responsible for fixing them. > You don't incorporate all possible typos into English to make it > friendly for people who can't spell. > > > One can create a hostile environment even without overt actions such > > as hitting someone, yelling profanity, inappropriate contact, etc. To > > put this in another context, imagine the storm that would ensue if > > your company's HR department responded to complaints of sexual > > harassment by a guy named Bob in the sales department by saying "We've > > known for years that Bob likes to flirt with his coworkers and we have > > asked him to tone it down. Some have told us that they don't mind too > > much, and those who complain probably just misunderstand his > > communication style. Besides, a lot of people like Bob and he is a > > really great salesman!" Eventually it comes crashing down with more > > and more collateral damage the longer it's left unchecked. > > Why not compare Nico to Hitler right away? This is just ugly and I > "expect better from everyone, especially senior members of the community." > _______________________________________________ > coreboot mailing list -- coreboot@coreboot.org > To unsubscribe send an email to coreboot-le...@coreboot.org _______________________________________________ coreboot mailing list -- coreboot@coreboot.org To unsubscribe send an email to coreboot-le...@coreboot.org
