Hi Sami, On 2013-12-10 19:56, Sami Kerola wrote: > On 10 December 2013 12:35, Marko Myllynen <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 2013-12-10 02:49, Eric Blake wrote: >>> On 12/09/2013 08:22 AM, Marko Myllynen wrote: >>>>>> It seems like it would be reasonable to add some sort of modifier to the >>>>>> existing %:::z to request suppression of leading 0. If we didn't have >>>>>> back-compat to worry about, I'd even suggest making %:::z be the short >>>>>> form, and %0:::z be the 0-padded form. >>> >>>>> sorry for the delayed reply and thanks for your insights - I've now >>>>> filed http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=772 so let's see how it goes. >>>> >>>> the request has been rejected on the basis that there are no current >>>> implementations. >>> >>> The rejection also mentioned that an appropriate setting of TZ can >>> already be used to achieve what you want: >>> >>> TZ="<UTC+3>+3<UTC+4>" date >>> >>> In other words, if setting TZ is already sufficient, then why >>> standardize anything else? >> >> sorry, I think I was being a bit unclear earlier - I used date as an >> example but the goal was to be able to adjust the fi_FI locale so that >> it would produce correct time strings. I've added this clarification to >> the above request as well. > > I wonder would it be easier to ask Finnish localization recommendation > group to reconsider the format, with emphasis they should choose > something that is already supported.
I could easily ask this as I'm a member of the project's steering group but then personally I would oppose such a proposal :) The rationale being that computer systems and software should adapt to cultural conventions not the other way around. There are of course a lot of related technical issues and room for pragmatism and we might need to settle with something "close enough" in the GNU/POSIX world with this for the time being but I don't think providing national recommendations based on what's currently supported would be the right approach. Thanks, -- Marko Myllynen
