James Feeney <ja...@nurealm.net> writes: > On Sun, 2023-09-24 at 02:49 +0200, Arsen Arsenović wrote: >> >> Many standards come and go. >> >> Note that I agree that a better info viewer (and a better info on-disk >> format) are necessary, but groff -Tutf8 -mtty-char | less -R is not >> better. It lacks the ability to navigate or reflow (the latter '.info' >> also lacks today, unfortunately). >> >> The solution to this is not to downgrade to man-pages, but to make the >> 'info' format better (the source material, i.e. the .texi, for that is >> already there) and to provide a better browser. ... > > Wikipedia tells us that "The Unix Programmer's Manual was first published on > November 3, 1971. The first actual man pages were written by Dennis Ritchie > and > Ken Thompson at the insistence of their manager Doug McIlroy in 1971." > > GNU Info is a de facto documentation standard for UNIX-like operating systems > in the same way that GNU Hurd is a de facto kernel standard for UNIX-like > operating systems - which is to say, not at all. Forcing the user to "jump > through hoops" - "Full documentation ... available locally via: info ..." - to > gain a reasonable overview of the coreutils system commands is little more > than > a juvenile disparaging of the traditional Unix Manual. > > As for Info itself, I will always use "zless > /usr/share/info/coreutils.info.gz", rather than "info '(coreutils) rm > invocation'", just to avoid dealing with info's arcane navigation commands.
Try 'info --vi-keys' or pinfo. > Arguments about the de facto documentation standard for UNIX-like operating > systems is not going to be resolved here and now, and adding a couple of > sentences to coreutils/man/rm.x is not a big ask. -- Arsen Arsenović
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