Ah okay, thank you for linking the previous discussions, it's a lot clearer why the date is in the wrong order for the current locale now.
Regards, Bjorn On Tuesday, January 16th, 2024 at 13:32, Pádraig Brady - P at draigbrady.com <p_at_draigbrady_com_bcrnatx...@simplelogin.co> wrote: > > > On 15/01/2024 20:42, gnu.3bp3s--- via GNU coreutils General Discussion wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > My locale is en_IE.UTF-8, so when I run the date command, the output at > > time of writing is "Mon 15 Jan 2024 20:39:04 GMT" > > > > Maybe I'm mistaken, but with that in mind I'd expect the following scenario: > > With time locale en_IE.UTF-8 the --time-style=locale within the past year > > should be equivalent to --time-style"+%e %b %R". And older than a year > > would be equivalent to --time-style"+%e %b %Y". > > > > However, this is what I get with following command > > $ ls -l --time-style=locale > > total 12 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 bjorn bjorn 4096 Aug 23 2022 dir1 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 bjorn bjorn 4096 Dec 30 17:44 dir2 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 bjorn bjorn 4096 Jan 15 19:25 dir3 > > -rw-r--r-- 1 bjorn bjorn 0 Nov 7 2022 file1 > > -rw-r--r-- 1 bjorn bjorn 0 Dec 18 12:16 file2 > > -rw-r--r-- 1 bjorn bjorn 0 Jan 15 19:25 file3 > > > > As you can see, even though I specify using my current locale, it outputs > > date as Month before Day. > > > > Is this a locale bug within ls? > > > > Regards,Bjorn N > > > Well it's not a bug, but it is a bit confusing. > The system locale doesn't define a time/date format that's directly usable by > ls. > Consider possibilities from the locale for Ireland: > > $ LC_TIME=en_IE.UTF-8 locale -kc LC_TIME | grep 'd.*fmt' > d_t_fmt="%a %d %b %Y %T" > d_fmt="%d/%m/%y" > era_d_fmt="" > era_d_t_fmt="" > date_fmt="%a %d %b %Y %T %Z" > > Instead ls uses more granular formats, > with the "locale" option being taken from the translations provided for your > locale. > Since there are generally no English translations provided with coreutils, > --time-style=locale will use the default. > All French locales on the other hand will use a different format, i.e.: > > $ LC_MESSAGES=fr_FR.UTF-8 gettext -d coreutils '%b %e %Y' > %e %b %Y > > For related older discussions on this see the thread at: > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2009-09/msg00388.html > > cheers, > Pádraig
