At 2026-11-06T18:24:26-0800, Collin Funk wrote: > Pádraig Brady <[email protected]> writes: > > On 06/11/2026 19:29, Rob Landley wrote: > >> Trying to get my toybox tests to pass with TEST_HOST=1 I > >> encountered regressions in mv between the coreutils 9.1 in Devuan > >> Daedalus (fork of Debian Bookworm) and the coreutils 9.7 in Devuan > >> Excalibur (Debian Trixie). Both changes violate posix 2024 from > >> https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/utilities/mv.html > >> 1) touch file1 file2; mv -i file1 file2 < /dev/null; ls file1 > >> On Bookworm file1 is still there, in Trixie it's gone. "Lack of no" > >> is > >> taken as yes. This violates this part of posix-2024: > >> the mv utility shall write a prompt to standard error and read a > >> line > >> from standard input. If the response is not affirmative, mv shall > >> do nothing more with the current source_file and go on to any > >> remaining source_files. > > > > I can't repro the file1 source file being moved on any upstream > > version. Nor can I repro on mv 9.7 from trixie ? > > Likewise, it does not reproduce for me either on both. The code looks > fine for it as well. > > I hope we get a real reproducer, or that Rob reconsiders his quickness > to make statements like this [1]:
As a leopard doesn't change its spots, a tech bro does not change his thoughts. > > Of course gnu/crap is constructed entirely out of regressions: > > > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/coreutils/2026-11/msg00047.html > > And [2]: > > > I'm trying to get all the toybox tests to pass "test_host", but > > gnu/crap is a moving target. > > Hopefully Google doesn't endorse your views. :) With appropriately structured internal policies, endorsement is superfluous. Rob's hostile remarks are at worst a PR problem, and not much of one at that, as there is no conceivable future where Google will wish to preserve the copyleft commons. And his comments have a salutary purpose in transmitting the culture to younger generations of engineers in a way that sinks in much better than a HR-mandated onboarding training module. > [1] https://lists.landley.net/pipermail/toybox/2026-November/010047.html > [2] https://mastodon.social/@[email protected]/117571045071997674 Regards, Branden
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