A pleasure to me to be cc’ed by Prof. Delmonte. 

On 25 Jul BE 2566, at 23:01, Rodolfo Delmonte <[email protected]> wrote:


In fact tensors should capture ideally both paradigmatic and synthagmatic properties of a word in a sentence given the fact that they are usually made up of matrices, that is at least couples of vectors where the rows are represented by embeddings. The question is do matrices represent all needed semantic and syntactic properties of a sentence? I doubt it and in fact when it comes to deep implicit content they certainly fail. But also with OOVWs or simply rare words no reasonable outcome is obtained.
Rodolfo 

Il mar 25 lug 2023, 17:28 Ada Wan via Corpora <[email protected]> ha scritto:
Dear lbrtchx

Yes, indeed, it is possible for a string (or an _expression_ or a lexical item... etc.) to refer to different things based on different contexts. One could refer to it as polysemy (or not). 
Many fields have shared vocabulary items. Same character or character strings can be used in ways that show differences "in nature"/"by definition" (i.e. different due to discipline-specific, historical reasons) or differences in practice (which could be more general/generalized). Esp. in an engineering field nowadays, a term used for/in practice is likely to gradually take over the one favored historically over time. 

Then again, Is your inquiry more about vocabulary use, or for what reason are you asking your question(s)? 

Best
Ada


On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 10:40 AM Peratham Wiriyathammabhum via Corpora <[email protected]> wrote:
Not talking to any medical doctors for another sense :)
From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]:

  tensor
    n 1: a generalization of the concept of a vector
      2: any of several muscles that cause an attached structure to become tense or firm


On 25 Jul BE 2566, at 06:13, Albretch Mueller via Corpora <[email protected]> wrote:

On 7/24/23, Andrea Nini via Corpora <[email protected]> wrote:
... See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor_(machine_learning)

Oh! Am I silly! ;-) That is why I was noticing a really strident
impedance between what they were saying and what we, Mathematicians,
mean by, have been taught to understand as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor

I was fancying self-describing decentralized hyper-forests of text
segments out of which a Language's grammar could be derived ... and
based on such totally off the mark, fanciful ideations I was trying to
somehow figure out how to describe the inner intersubjective aspects
of valuation through tensor planes ... there I went.
~
On 7/24/23, Darren Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
 Perhaps my doubts relate to the fact that as a theoretical physicist
myself, the kind of "mathematical purity" I was trained into...

By the way, this is probably veering off-topic for corpora-l.

datascience.stackexchange.com is quite a good place for questions about
transformers, embeddings, NLP, etc.

As a TI I can't use stackoverflow, stackexchange ... (they start road
blocking you in really obnoxious ways) I can't even visit public
libraries in "'the' 'land' of 'the' free ...", "because" they
blacklisted me in the FBI criminal index (believe me, you would laugh
about it if you could if you knew me)

lbrtchx
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