Amendment:
In short, there are no symbolic concepts relevant in computing /
computational processing except for those which also align with statistics.
(There are various levels of assumptions/abstractions that could be
relevant depending on the goals/tasks. But much of what one might have been
doing in "symbolic computing" surely deserves a critical re-examination.

On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 4:48 PM Ada Wan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Ben, Rodolfo, and Toms
>
> Please accept that there is a responsibility to science, technology,
> engineering, and education (or anything that we undertake).
>
> If you could point out the specific arguments as to which of what I wrote
> may be problematic to you, perhaps we can have a constructive exchange. The
> way in which you three expressed your sentiments on this thread can be
> interpreted as mobbing.
>
> Please note the intent behind my statement and lend me the benefit of a
> doubt as to why I would have invested my time and energy to write the reply
> that I did to the list:
> "As language sciences (e.g. Linguistics) and NLP are still taught at some
> universities, i.e. part of publicly accessible education, there is a
> general responsibility that one should bear when promoting/hosting events
> that would be explicitly/implicitly supporting biases and/or in violation
> of scientific integrity."
> This applies to the whole area of computing, including digital humanities
> and the computational social sciences.* In short, there are no symbolic
> concepts relevant in computing / computational processing.* I am sorry if
> that has not been clear.
>
> I understand that there are members in the CL/NLP community/communities
> who might be interested in (or used/addicted to) "word" hacking. But it is
> now high time to stop.
>
> @Ben: Please note that I am not doing this "for fun". I am not trying to
> ridicule anyone. My remarks are not ad personam. For each of the research
> directions/practices that I commented on, there are opportunities for all
> practitioners to do a better job, to refine our analyses.
>
> Thanks and best
> Ada
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 9:45 AM Toms Bergmanis via Corpora <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Can’t agree more.
>>
>> Toms
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Rodolfo Delmonte via Corpora <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 21, 2023 10:06 AM
>> *To:* Ben Sir <[email protected]>
>> *Cc:* corpora <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [Corpora-List] Re: RANLP 2023 Call for Participation
>>
>>
>>
>> Fully agree with you Ben.
>>
>> Rodolfo
>>
>>
>>
>> Il lun 21 ago 2023, 01:00 Ben Sir via Corpora <[email protected]>
>> ha scritto:
>>
>> Hi Ada,
>>
>> It's understandable that enthusiasm can sometimes lead to excessive
>> engagement, but your disruptive posting on the mailing list has reached an
>> intolerable level. Please keep your conversations private instead of
>> spamming everyone and curb your enthusiasm. Your obnoxious behavior
>> reflects poorly on you.
>>
>> Thanks.
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