Hi John:

My web browser indeed served up an older version - my apologies.

If a device has to implement signature verification logic for a signature scheme, it is highly likely that that device also uses this algorithm for signing (if only to amortize some of the BOM and engineering cost). Hence, eco-system impacts should be considered, at least in my thinking. {Where a signature scheme has known weaknesses on the signing side, one should try and steer way from inadvertently enticing moral hazards.}

I hope this helps, Rene


On 2021-03-11 6:06 p.m., John Mattsson wrote:
- secp256r1is supported and included in Figure 9. Fig 4? Are you maybe reading 
some old version?
- C509 is CBOR encoding of X509. It follows X.509 and does should not really go into security aspects of the algs. Also note that the signature would be made by a CA, not an IoT device.

John

*From: *COSE <[email protected]> on behalf of Rene Struik <[email protected]>
*Date: *Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 23:54
*To: *Ivaylo Petrov <[email protected]>, cose <[email protected]>
*Cc: *Cose Chairs Wg <[email protected]>
*Subject: *Re: [COSE] Conditional call for adoption: draft-mattsson-cose-cbor-cert-compress

Dear colleagues:

I think considering ways to represent certificates more efficiently may be useful, where this draft could be a possible starting point to work from.

I have not yet read the entire draft, but am wondering about some of the underlying philosophies, where, e.g.,

(a) in Fig. 4 (CBOR Cert Public Key Algorithms), NIST curve P-256 is not supported, whereas curves isomorphic to Curve25519 are, which seems to be inconsistent;

(b) in Fig. 3 (CBOR Cert Signature Algorithms), EdDSA is supported, whereas this deterministic scheme is known to be susceptible to single-fault attacks, which seems to be contrary to best current practice.

The above comments should not prevent using this draft as a starting point, though.

Best regards, Rene

On 2021-03-02 4:46 p.m., Ivaylo Petrov wrote:

    Dear all,

    This message starts the conditional *call for adoption* of the
    following draft :

    * *draft-mattsson-cose-cbor-cert-compress-08*
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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mattsson-cose-cbor-cert-compress-08

    
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