> Specifically, I am referring to:
> * COSE Receipts
> * COSE Hash Envelope
> * COSE Header parameter for RFC 3161 Time-Stamp Tokens
> […]
> Regarding redispatching, SCITT could serve as a good home for all
> three.  SCITT folks: can you confirm?

Although I have been watching some of the conversation I’m not terribly 
familiar with the TST header one, but the other two certainly: they are the 
basis of SCITT’s ability to service software supply chain artifacts, 
particularly very large or remote ones.

>From a raw architecture point of view I liked them being in COSE, since 
>they’re also useful for non-SCITT uses of COSE/CBOR, but the SCITT WG needed 
>that work done and so it seems very plausible to move them across, ADs willing.

I’ll read up on TST.

Jon

On 05/05/2025, 14:29, "Thomas Fossati" <[email protected]> wrote:

[ CC -= IESG; CC += SCITT ]

On Fri, 2 May 2025 at 17:33, Roman Danyliw via Datatracker
<[email protected]> wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> DISCUSS:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> For the responsible AD and WG chairs -- this document is not in scope for the
> current WG charter.  My understanding of its substance is that it defines two,
> new COSE attributes.  The approved -03 charter explicitly says:
>
> “The WG will produce documents for new attributes only if they are in the
> list of deliverables below. A re-charter will be required to expand that list.
> The WG is expected as part of normal processing to review and comment on
> attributes that are not in charter but are of general public interest.”
>
> There is no subsequent reference to work about specifying timestamp related
> attributes in the work items section of the charter (or any other place).

Thanks, Roman, for pointing this out.

At a glance, it seems that three of seven (i.e., ~40%) of the
currently adopted documents are out of scope.

Specifically, I am referring to:
* COSE Receipts
* COSE Hash Envelope
* COSE Header parameter for RFC 3161 Time-Stamp Tokens

All three are quite advanced (in particular, “TST header parameters”
is with the IESG, and "Receipts" is in WGLC).

Possible ways out include:
* Rechartering to put them in scope,
* Re-dispatching to other WGs, or
* Seeking AD sponsorship.

Given that the WG has already invested considerable effort in the
documents, a (quick) retrospective rechartering does not seem
unnatural to me.
(Besides, while I tend to prefer charters with a narrow scope, I
believe the current COSE charter is a bit *too* narrow, considering
the breadth of the problem space?)

Regarding redispatching, SCITT could serve as a good home for all
three.  SCITT folks: can you confirm?

AD sponsorship seems the least compelling route, but I am happy to be
convinced otherwise.

Any thoughts or (possibly brilliant) ideas? :-)

cheers!

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