Lijun,

I know I will need multiple messages and then a FEC.

For the TESLA Signed Key Disclouser message, I am able to pack that all into 2 packets then the FEC is a simple XOR (recover 1 lost packet).

Here I am hope I can do it in 4 or 5 and then use the EVENODD FEC (recover 2 lost packets).

I am having SOOO much fun on this!  I have a deadline of Feb 28 to have it written in a "final form" to present week of Mar 9.  :)

Right now the design is closed, but IF I this going, there will be public IETF ID, as there is much needing proper review.  ;)

On 2/11/26 3:14 PM, Lijun Liao wrote:
HI Robert,

Do you have only one piece of 385-bit or multiple pieces?

One piece of 385-bit seems impossible here. For the cryptographic parts you need 256+512 bits (Ed25519 public key: 256 bits, and Ed25519 signature: 64 bytes).

Lijun



On 11. Feb 2026, at 16:32, Robert Moskowitz <[email protected]> wrote:

I have to squeeze only those fields into as few 385-bit pieces to validate a TESLA Key Disclouser.

Ugh.

So "all" I need from the aircraft full certificate (ignore all those policy OIDs and other odds and ends!) is:

  * Validity dates
  * issuerAltName (IAN) IPv6 (issuer's DET per rfc9374)
  * subjectAltName (SAN) IPv6 (aircraft's DET per rfc9374)
  * subjectAltName (SAN) IPv4 (aircraft's 24-bit number prefixed with
    ZERO) - note I have not figured out any better/smaller OID (in
    subject or SAN) for the 24-bit aircraft number.  Using IPv4 is a
    hack at best.
  * Aircraft's EdDSA25519 public key
  * CBOR sig of these by issuer's EdDSA25519 key


Note that the issuer DET's SuiteID provides the algorithm for the signature.

I am trying to use cbor.me to expand some test cbor c509 certs to get sizes, but I am not good enough with cbor to figure this out.  Plus that sig would probably be a "regular" cbor object signature, not the c509 sig.

I am under a deadline with a bunch of other writing that this is just one important part, so any help is greatly appreciated.

Each 385-bit message costs 120ms of channel capacity. The fewer the better...

Bob

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