Hi John!

thank you for your email. The most important statement is that you believe the COSE HPKE draft is ready for WGLC. It is also good to hear that you believe draft-ietf-jose-pqc-kem is important for your work. Good that there is a draft ready for you.

Additionally, you raised several questions, which I do not believe we necessarily need to discuss since they are ultimately the decision of the LAKE group.

Ciao
Hannes

Am 06.03.2026 um 17:33 schrieb John Mattsson:
Adding COSE, LAKE

LAKE WG is counting on draft-ietf-jose-pqc-kem, It is referenced by several drafts, and has been discussed several times.

draft-ietf-cose-hpke is not suitable for LAKE and many other constrained uses of COSE.

When I reviewed it last year it looked very much ready for WGLC. I would suggest to start WGLC.

Cheers,
John Preuß Mattsson

*From: *Aritra Banerjee (Nokia) <[email protected]>
*Date: *Wednesday, 11 February 2026 at 18:20
*To: *[email protected] <[email protected]>
*Subject: *[jose] Re: Proposal: Use HPKE for JWE PQ/PQT straight away

Hello,

The draft-ietf-jose-pqc-kem establishes a clear, HPKE-independent pathway for systems aiming to transition to PQC-only Key Encapsulation Mechanisms (KEMs). It does not depend on the new modes defined in draft-ietf-jose-hpke-encrypt. Instead, draft-ietf-jose-pqc-kem mirrors the original JWE ECDH-style key agreement model, making it the natural post-quantum analogue of ECDH-ES.

While HPKE-based JOSE provides valuable capabilities, particularly for PQ/T use cases, deployments seeking a PQC-only key establishment mechanism should not be required to rely on the new modes introduced in jose-hpke. This draft supports a minimal-change transition to PQC-only KEMs while remaining aligned with the existing JWE model, enabling a straightforward and consistent migration path.

Best,
Aritra.

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