Much help.. Thank you so much..

From: elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList 
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 4:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Gibson Ancestors

Nancy, 


James will says that he had a farm in Ballee (which he left to his 2 sisters). 
Looking at the Valuation revision records for Ballee, I see 2 Porter farms 
there. Plot 16 was James senior and consisted of 28 acres, 1 rood & 25 perches. 
It was rented from the Abercorn estate. The tenant changes to Jane in 1889, 
James in 1901 and reps of James in 1908 (ie he had died). The farm was 
purchased under the Land Act in 1906 (ie with a government mortgage).



Adjacent on plot 17 was James Porter junior with an almost identical 28 acres 2 
roods & 25 perches. It changes to Margaret in 1889, then to John Stevenson in 
1890. In addition John senior & John junior had a quarter share of some common 
land on plot 20.



Senior & junior in Griffiths usually indicates father & son.



Presumably this is John junior in 1901:



http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Ballymagorry/Ballee/1753244/



Same household in 1911:



http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Ballymagorry/Ballee/849631/



Those 2 farms today are on the Ballee Rd and the Towncastle Rd.



Some references in PRONI in the Abercorn Estate papers: D623/A/127/32 
21.8.1814: John McCrea's farm at Ballymagorry sold for £620 to James Porter of 
Ballee, a most respectable industrious young man.



D623/B/12/13 31 January 1835 Marquess of Abercorn, to John Porter, Ballee, Co. 
Tyrone. Lease for one life or 21 years of 40a.0r.31p. Statute measure of land 
at Ballee. Rent £20.19.9. Covenants with all rights, members, privileges and 
appurtenances belonging or appertaining.



D623/B/13/108  10 March 1862 John Porter, Ballee, Co. Tyrone, to Robert 
McCleery, Ballee. Conveyance of 69a.2r.1p. of farmland at Ballee. Consideration 
£200.




Hope this is of interest.




Elwyn


On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 2:43 AM, Peter Kincaid via CoTyroneList 
<[email protected]> wrote:

  Did your Mary Margaret (Porter) Gibson return to County Tyrone?  I see the 
following abstract for a Margaret Porter in Ballee: 

  Title : Mrs Date of Death : 11 November 1927
  Surname : Gibson Date of Grant : 19 November 1956
  Forename : Margaret Reseal Date : 
  Registry : Londonderry Effects : Effects £25 0s 0d
  No Image
  Full Abstract :
  Gibson Margaret of Ballee Strabane county Tyrone widow died 11 November 1927 
Probate Londonderry 19 November to Robert John Gibson farmer. Effects £25.

  If not her, then likely a relative.

  Kincaids were in Ballee townland as well.  There was a Kincaid-Porter union 
in the mid 1800s in Londonderry:

  On 25 November 1862, Andrew Kinkaid, a full age bachelor farmer of Dundrain, 
son of John Kinkaid, farmer, was married to Jane Porter, a 20 year old spinster 
of Elagh, daughter of Andrew Porter, farmer at Ballyarnet Parish Church, 
Templemore Parish, County Londonderry to the form and discipline of the 
Presbyterian Church by license by Robert McCreery.  The witnesses were William 
Robinson and George Adair [Ireland.  Civil Registrations of Marriages.  
Londonderry, 1862, vol. 7, p. 261, no. 47; LDS film no. 101438].

  While in the Glasgow area, this Kincaid family hailed from Ireland and I 
suspect them to be from Donagheady Parish (Maghereagh and Drummeny 
connections).  I thought I'd add it here in case the name fit with some of 
yours.

  The Statutory Death Registers records the death of Margaret Porter "suddenly 
in Alexander Kincaid's house Levern Bank, Neilston"  on 5 August 1880 at Levern 
Bank, Neilston, being a 60 year old daughter of the deceased William Kincaid, 
miller, and the deceased Janet Ferrie and spouse of 1) George Porter, 
shoemaker, and 2) Joseph Porter, shoemaker.  Her sister Jean Kincaid was 
present at her death [GROS, Neilston District, Renfrew County, 572/01 0069.  p. 
23, no. 69].

  Peter Kincaid



  On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Nancy via CoTyroneList 
<[email protected]> wrote:

             My great-great-grandfather John Thomas Gibson was born in County 
Tyrone, Northern Ireland (Strabane) in 1802. He attended Donagheady 
Presbyterian Church. he  came to America in 1830 with his wife Mary Margaret 
Porter. They settled in Franklin , Kentucky. I’m trying to find out who his 
parents were . The family received letters from Margaret Porter (Mary’s Aunt) 
1816-1894 she mentions her Brother James Porter 1800-1884 and sister Rebecca 
1806-1893.(the 3 never married) I can find their wills but can’t find anything 
in a census where they lived with Mary Margaret or John’s parents. The siblings 
had some kind of land they leased out . The letters were written in 1833.   She 
mentions Aunt Holmes..Thomas Boyd, Sir John and Carol out of Mayors office and 
Humphreys is in. Mentions their  neighbors in Ballee Todd.  In 1886  she 
mentions a Sarah Gibson getting 2 letters  from Kentucky and and 1 letter from 
Rebekah’s son (this is not the same Rebecca ,her sister)  Could Sarah be John’s 
mother.??? I sure hope someone can help me..I sure would appreciate it. Thanks 
, Nancy








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